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Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants
Date 2016-09-19 18:41 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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Tim BandTech.com wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Poutnik wrote:
>> > Dne 13/09/2016 v 23:49 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn napsal(a):
>> >> He also said:
>> >> | If an electron is kicked out from the "up" position, then the "down"
>> >> | electron that remains can get into the "up" position. Happens all
>> >> | the time.
>> >> 
>> >> I asked for evidence of that.  None has been provided by anyone so
>> >> far.
>> > 
>> > "cannot get into" say nothing about spontaneity without interaction.
>> 
>> Learn English.
>> 
>> > EPR spectroscopy is based on such spin flipping.
> 
> Well what do you know; a real discussion on usenet. Congratulations.

Thank you.  Unfortunately, you have overlooked/snipped the important parts.

> Seems it's been years since I've bumped into a real conversation with
> actual content and thinking here. Perhaps the gov is letting up on us.

Perhaps you are smoking the wrong stuff.
 
> As I see it some of the links of the OP are concerned with nuclear spins.

Which “links of the OP”?

> Electron spins coupled with nuclear spins poses some even greater
> difficulties I would think.

Which “difficulties” and why?

> […]
> Fact is they can't even produce an electron beam of pure spin up or spin
> down electrons.

Of course not.

> Best figure last I looked was 85%.

85 % of what?  Cite evidence.

> And they want to build computers with this stuff?

Among other approaches, electron spin is used for realizing qubits in 
*quantum* computers.

> It's not going to work;

You are not remotely in a position to tell.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing>

> that is my own prediction.

Which is therefore worthless.

> What will the consequences be?

Proper English would be “What will be the consequences?”.

> Well, here you are studying one of the most fundamental accessible parts 
> of nature,

So you have no idea what “accessible” means, too.

> and it may well be that there are consequences.  Even practical ones, such
> as the upper limit of efficiency of hydrogen production.

Crackpot’s FUD.

> Keep going guys. So glad you find electromagnetic radiation to be so
> exciting!

“Exciting” there does not have anything to do with us being excited about 
the subject, but with (the photons of) electromagnetic radiation that 
give(s) off their/its energy to electrons, thereby reversing the direction 
of the spins of electrons (as photons are spin-1 particles and total angular 
momentum in an interaction must be conserved), and bringing the latter into 
an excited energy state (with an energy higher than their ground state).  
[*This* happens all the time, indeed.]

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_state>

Please get yourself a minimum clue or keep your big Googlodyte mouth shut; 
the S/N here is low enough already.  TIA.
  
-- 
PointedEars

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3 Hydrogen gas variants Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:49 -0700
  Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-12 01:18 +0000
    Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 18:40 -0700
  Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 08:14 +0200
    Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 08:28 +0200
      Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:26 -0700
        Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 17:38 +0200
          Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 09:21 -0700
            Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:01 +0200
              Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:17 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:19 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:24 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:50 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:00 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 18:29 +0000
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 15:10 -0500
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-13 09:07 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:22 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:25 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-13 10:37 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 18:27 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-13 18:56 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 21:03 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-13 23:49 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:16 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 09:15 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-19 12:10 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 12:13 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 09:06 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:33 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:35 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-19 12:23 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants "Tim BandTech.com" <timgolden@bandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-19 08:05 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-19 18:41 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants "Tim BandTech.com" <timgolden@bandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-21 21:47 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 09:25 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-09-20 21:38 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:41 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-13 14:35 +0000
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 08:09 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-13 15:50 +0000
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:05 -0700
              Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 13:24 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 10:59 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 14:28 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 07:08 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 09:55 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:12 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 10:18 -0700
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 19:29 +0200
                Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 18:31 -0700
            Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-12 18:05 +0000
        Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 18:41 -0700
    Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-12 17:59 +0000
      Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:15 +0200
        Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-09-12 21:15 +0000
    Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 20:41 -0700
      Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:34 +0200
        Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:46 +0200
      Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:53 +0200
      Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:57 +0200
        Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 08:35 +0200
  Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants "Tim BandTech.com" <timgolden@bandtechnology.com> - 2016-09-17 11:07 -0700
    Re: 3 Hydrogen gas variants Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 21:55 +0200

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