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Dr J R Stockton wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] posted:
>> Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>>>>> Note that such Date arithmetic can be unreliable near the
>>>>> International Date Line, because of occurrences such as the omission
>>>>> of 2011-12-30 Fr1 by Samoa (non-US) and Tokelau.
>>>>
>>>> Which is why UTC should be used instead.
>>>
>>> […]
>>> Using UTC will be no help whatsoever in dealing with locations which
>>> have used or will use a discontinuous calendar in the interval in
>>> question.
>>
>> It is the year 2014 of the Gregorian Calendar, we are talking about 
>> future bookings, and “Swifty”’s holiday cottage is located near Bunessan, 
>> on the Isle of Mull, Scotland, United Kingdom.
> 
> But responses in Usenet are read not only by the original questioner,
> but in some cases by many other people.

Red herring.  Using UTC avoids the problem of possible DST switches with 
local time.  Neither UTC nor local time can avoid the non-existence of dates 
at a specific location, and the inability of ECMAScript implementations to 
deal with that natively.  So your statement that “UTC will be no help 
whatsoever in dealing with those locations” is simply false.

> And what Samoa has done recently might be done, in either direction, by
> such places in the near future.  And it is even possible that Swifty's
> cottage may have future bookings from residents of such places.

It is irrelevant where his guests are from.  It is relevant where is cottage 
is located because his guests pay for the days they spend *there* instead of 
their home.  So again, do you have reason to believe that the United Kingdom 
is going to skip dates in the future?  If not, why are you arguing?

> Your file date.js misuses the term "timezone" or "time zone";

Prove it.

> and its week number calculation resembles that of the inept Microsoft.

Then it is fortunate that we have you to correct it.  If only the code that 
you write would be readable as being conforming to any generally agreed-upon 
code standard for ECMAScript-based programming languages…

> At least one of your site's "entry" pages behaves badly in a browser
> using Zoom Text Only.

A setting that for good reasons has not been the default for several years, 
if not a decade now, and is absent from the majority of current, widely 
distributed user agents.  But I will look into it.  If you really would like 
to help with that, you should point out which “entry 'page'” exhibits 
problems in that regard and how it “behaves badly”, exactly.
 
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Date arithmetic Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 12:38 +0000
  Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-11 15:10 +0100
    Re: Date arithmetic Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 22:07 +0000
      Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-11 22:37 +0000
        Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-12 02:40 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-12 08:21 +0100
            Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 15:27 +0100
              Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 21:26 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-14 14:16 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-15 07:13 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-15 19:36 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-16 17:24 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-16 18:49 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-17 00:14 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-16 10:51 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-16 20:17 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-17 00:52 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-17 01:11 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-18 16:18 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-19 11:00 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-21 22:58 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-22 18:33 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-23 19:38 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-24 01:14 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-25 21:17 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-26 18:25 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-27 19:34 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-28 01:25 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-28 05:29 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-11-28 11:44 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-28 04:52 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-28 14:24 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-28 14:47 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-28 06:12 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-11-29 16:59 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-29 20:05 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-29 23:47 -0200
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-12-01 10:44 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-30 23:54 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-12-01 13:01 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-17 01:34 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-17 01:41 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-18 19:06 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-18 16:26 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-19 17:52 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-11-19 09:44 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-19 19:34 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 19:13 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-19 22:18 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-11-19 13:43 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 22:40 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-19 22:51 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 23:35 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-19 23:10 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-19 22:32 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 23:26 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-20 00:47 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-20 00:17 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-20 01:18 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-20 13:47 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-21 22:29 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2014-11-19 19:24 -0200
                Re: Date arithmetic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-11-19 13:40 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-19 23:40 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-18 16:44 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-19 11:20 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-14 20:45 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2014-11-15 14:13 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-15 23:42 +0100
      Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-12 00:23 +0100
      Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-12 13:24 +0000
        Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-12 14:43 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-12 19:48 +0100
            Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 01:18 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-12 20:19 +0000
            Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 03:42 +0100
    Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-12 20:06 +0000
    Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-11-23 20:51 -0800
      Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-25 20:08 +0000
        Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-26 01:31 +0100
        Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-08 19:42 -0800
      Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-26 01:40 +0100
      Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-26 22:07 +0100
        Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-08 21:41 -0800
          Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-12-09 09:47 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-12-09 14:17 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-12-10 23:34 +0000
            Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-10 17:21 -0800
              Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-12-13 17:19 +0000
          Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-10 18:35 -0800
  Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-11 22:29 +0100
    Re: Date arithmetic Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 21:53 +0000
      Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-11 23:43 +0100
        Re: Date arithmetic John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-12 15:49 +0000
  Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-12 19:58 +0000
  Re: Date arithmetic Dr.Kral@nyc.rr.com - 2014-11-13 20:24 -0500
    Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-14 04:34 +0100

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