Re: Date arithmetic

From	Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.javascript
Subject	Re: Date arithmetic
Date	2014-11-18 16:18 +0000
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In comp.lang.javascript message <40469088.RWZSUOfdCW@PointedEars.de>,
Mon, 17 Nov 2014 01:11:40, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> posted:
>Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>
>> Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>>> But we know that Swifty wants to process his _hand-entered_ dates.
>>> A quick test in current Firefox on an elderly PC shows that it executes a
>>> million of 'new Date()' in about 2.2 seconds.  So there can be no
>>> perceptible advantage in doing anything other than 'new Date()' on each
>>> input, subtracting, dividing by 864e5, and rounding to integer, to get
>>> Swifty his date difference.
>>
>> You are missing the point and are preaching to the choir.  It has already
>> been stated twice (at least) in this thread that for this use-case the
>> approach in jsx.date.getDayOfYear() is not the most efficient one, and
>> that the division approach is probably the best one.

Perhaps you are not a churchgoer.  In general, it seems to me that the
boys and girls of a choir are likely to be at least as much in need of
being preached at as is the general congregation.  When attempting
English clichés (always unwise for the non-English), one should take
great care to get them right; never assume that a foreign cliché remains
good when translated literally.  You should have written "preaching to
the converted".  And I did not refer to jsx.

>Although _not_ with new Date(), but with Date.UTC() after parsing the input
>string, because the former is susceptible both to non-standard parsing
>behavior and switches from/to DST while the latter is not.

The above rounding will take care of the seasonal clock changes, which
are not expected to exceed a couple of hours nett.

Swifty already has his dates as yyyy-mm-dd.  He can probably trust his
browser to understand that (and can easily check), and he can append
" GMT" to eliminate Summer Time worries.

With a RegExp, one can easily check for the format ####-##-## and change
the two '-' to '/' if desired and add the GMT bit.

Note that such Date arithmetic can be unreliable near the International
Date Line, because of occurrences such as the omission of 2011-12-30 Fr1
by Samoa (non-US) and Tokelau.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK.   E-mail, see Home Page.    Turnpike v6.05.
 Website  <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
 PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm
 Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

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Date arithmetic Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 12:38 +0000
  Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-11 15:10 +0100
    Re: Date arithmetic Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 22:07 +0000
      Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-11 22:37 +0000
        Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-12 02:40 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-12 08:21 +0100
            Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 15:27 +0100
              Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 21:26 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-14 14:16 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-15 07:13 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-15 19:36 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-16 17:24 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-16 18:49 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-17 00:14 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-16 10:51 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-16 20:17 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-17 00:52 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-17 01:11 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-18 16:18 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-19 11:00 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-21 22:58 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-22 18:33 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-23 19:38 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-24 01:14 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-25 21:17 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-26 18:25 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-27 19:34 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-28 01:25 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-28 05:29 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-11-28 11:44 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-28 04:52 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-28 14:24 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-28 14:47 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-28 06:12 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-11-29 16:59 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-29 20:05 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-29 23:47 -0200
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-12-01 10:44 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-30 23:54 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-12-01 13:01 +1100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-17 01:34 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-17 01:41 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-18 19:06 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-18 16:26 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-19 17:52 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-11-19 09:44 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-19 19:34 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 19:13 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-19 22:18 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-11-19 13:43 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 22:40 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-19 22:51 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 23:35 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-19 23:10 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-11-19 22:32 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-19 23:26 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-20 00:47 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-20 00:17 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <J.R.Stockton@physics.org> - 2014-11-20 01:18 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-20 13:47 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-21 22:29 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2014-11-19 19:24 -0200
                Re: Date arithmetic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-11-19 13:40 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-19 23:40 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-18 16:44 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-19 11:20 +0100
                Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-14 20:45 +0000
                Re: Date arithmetic "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2014-11-15 14:13 -0800
                Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-15 23:42 +0100
      Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-11-12 00:23 +0100
      Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-12 13:24 +0000
        Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-12 14:43 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-12 19:48 +0100
            Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-13 01:18 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-11-12 20:19 +0000
            Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-13 03:42 +0100
    Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-12 20:06 +0000
    Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-11-23 20:51 -0800
      Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-25 20:08 +0000
        Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-26 01:31 +0100
        Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-08 19:42 -0800
      Re: Date arithmetic "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-11-26 01:40 +0100
      Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-26 22:07 +0100
        Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-08 21:41 -0800
          Re: Date arithmetic "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2014-12-09 09:47 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-12-09 14:17 +0100
          Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-12-10 23:34 +0000
            Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-10 17:21 -0800
              Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-12-13 17:19 +0000
          Re: Date arithmetic RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2014-12-10 18:35 -0800
  Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-11 22:29 +0100
    Re: Date arithmetic Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2014-11-11 21:53 +0000
      Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-11 23:43 +0100
        Re: Date arithmetic John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-12 15:49 +0000
  Re: Date arithmetic Dr J R Stockton <reply1400@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-11-12 19:58 +0000
  Re: Date arithmetic Dr.Kral@nyc.rr.com - 2014-11-13 20:24 -0500
    Re: Date arithmetic Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-11-14 04:34 +0100

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