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Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps?

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In article <ns3kpc$1og0$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algiers
<horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:

> >> Even with setting up the app, it takes almost no time whatsoever to
> >> reconfigure an Android device, without the need of mainframe computers and
> >> home desktops - and the best part of this is that you always can use *any
> >> version* of the app that works with your operating system.
> > 
> > bullshit. it's actually very time consuming to restore a device no
> > matter what it is, particularly if you're doing it manually.
> 
> Well, let's look at it the way Jolly Roger looks at jailbreaking.
> 
> To *him*, since he's done it so many times, it takes "5 minutes".
> To "me", it would take 10x that and then add an order of magnitude.

that's because you'e completely inept at doing the simplest things and
you have an odd way of saying two orders of magnitude (because you
haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about). 

> Likewise, I've re-installed so many operating systems, that it does only
> take me a short while (maybe an hour, if that) to set up the system the way
> I want it set up.

an hour completely wasted.

and with ios, even if you do repeatedly restore for no reason, as you
do with android, the difference is you don't have to babysit the
process. click restore and let it do its thing while you go off and do
something *else*.

> Each time, of course, I *explore* more settings, and I *test* different
> apps and versions, and I *experiment* with disabling of permissions.

there's no need to wipe/restore to experiment with different apps and
versions or for changing permissions. 

you make even the simplest things a total clusterfuck.

> For example, I disabled location permission on *all* the apps that
> requested it (that didn't need it).
> 
> For example, *why* does ES File Explorer need location access?
> http://i.cubeupload.com/HH2sfG.png
> 
> Why does a WiFi Analyzer need location access? 
> http://i.cubeupload.com/PKxm2Z.png
> 
> Why does the T-Mobile carrier-iq "System Manager Application" need it?
> http://i.cubeupload.com/puQjf5.png
> 
> Why does a stinkin' clock need location access?
> http://i.cubeupload.com/mAHrrA.png
> 
> Or the Contacts app, for heaven's sake?
> http://i.cubeupload.com/QDEOwe.png
> 
> The list goes on and on and on.

that it does, but you really meant to say the trolling goes on and on
and on.

> My "experiment" is to see if anything bad happens.
> So far, after two days, nothing bad has happened yet.

bummer. if only something would.

> > it's actually very easy to restore an ios device from a backup, so easy
> > that it's just a button click and without needing any 'mainframe
> > computers on the net'.
> 
> I notice how you cleverly danced around the fact that it's *impossible* to
> restore iOS without needing a *SECOND* computer (of any sort, net or no
> net), whereas it's trivial do restore an Android system *without* anything
> but the Android device itself.

once again, you're lying.

a backup has to be somewhere *other* than the device itself, otherwise
it's not a backup.

in your case, the backup is kept on sd cards, but in piecemeal form
requiring you have to manually restore each app individually (see quote
below).

on an ios device, you tap restore and let the computer do the work
*for* you. the backup can either be in the cloud (convenient) or on a
computer (faster).

> That's only one of very many things that Android can do, all by itself,
> that the more primitive and limited iOS can't hope to accomplish all by
> itself.

you're lying again. it's absolutely *not* 'all by itself'.

In article <ns3m74$1rdj$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algiers
<horace@horacealgiers.com> wrote:
> A couple of days ago, when I factory reset Android 4.3 and re-installed all
> my apps, one by one, from APKs, I decided to turn off location access for
> all but the map apps.

if you're reinstalling apps *one* *by* *one* and checking permissions
as you go, then it's *not* 'only one of very many things that Android
can do, all by itself'. it's *you* who is doing it, the hard way.

meanwhile on ios, it really does restore everything (and i do mean
everything) all by itself, with just a tap.

> > on ios, tapping a screenshot will send it via wifi, which is over 100x
> > faster than bluetooth.
> 
> Which fails every time when you don't have a network established, which
> means you can't do it when you're away from your established network.

wrong, yet again

you've been told thousands of times that *no* existing network is
needed.

the two devices set up their own network automatically, without any
user configuration necessary, even on a deserted island totally off the
grid.

to the user, it's still a couple of taps, just as it would be with
bluetooth, but the actual transfer is way the fuck faster because it's
over wifi.

> So, again, yet another of many things Android does that the primitive and
> limited iOS can't even hope to accomplish simply because of the limitations
> of the software (the hardware is fine - it's the software that is limited
> by Apple as to what it can do).

more rubbish.

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Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:47 +0000
  Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-22 21:13 +0200
    Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
      Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-23 00:28 -0400
        Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 13:56 +0000
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 10:19 -0400
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 16:21 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:04 -0400
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-23 15:54 -0500
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:22 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 19:25 -0400
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-23 20:20 -0700
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:26 -0400
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:12 -0400
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-24 06:57 +0200
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-26 19:53 +0200
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:09 -0400
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 18:17 -0400
      Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-23 08:24 +0200
        Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-23 10:17 +0100

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