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Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps?

From Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, alt.cellular, alt.internet.wireless
Subject Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps?
Date 2016-09-23 16:21 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:19:59 -0400, nospam wrote:

> it may be 'trivially easy' conceptually, but it's very time consuming
> (especially with higher capacity devices) and completely pointless to
> do it monthly or even yearly.

In the simplest sense, your "concept" is similar to that of an automatic
transmission - where you default on thinking - whereas my concept is akin
to the manual transmission - which - sure - it's "more work" but the
results are more satisfyingly tuned to my needs.

>> Even with setting up the app, it takes almost no time whatsoever to
>> reconfigure an Android device, without the need of mainframe computers and
>> home desktops - and the best part of this is that you always can use *any
>> version* of the app that works with your operating system.
> 
> bullshit. it's actually very time consuming to restore a device no
> matter what it is, particularly if you're doing it manually.

Well, let's look at it the way Jolly Roger looks at jailbreaking.

To *him*, since he's done it so many times, it takes "5 minutes".
To "me", it would take 10x that and then add an order of magnitude.

Likewise, I've re-installed so many operating systems, that it does only
take me a short while (maybe an hour, if that) to set up the system the way
I want it set up.

Each time, of course, I *explore* more settings, and I *test* different
apps and versions, and I *experiment* with disabling of permissions.

For example, I disabled location permission on *all* the apps that
requested it (that didn't need it).

For example, *why* does ES File Explorer need location access?
http://i.cubeupload.com/HH2sfG.png

Why does a WiFi Analyzer need location access? 
http://i.cubeupload.com/PKxm2Z.png

Why does the T-Mobile carrier-iq "System Manager Application" need it?
http://i.cubeupload.com/puQjf5.png

Why does a stinkin' clock need location access?
http://i.cubeupload.com/mAHrrA.png

Or the Contacts app, for heaven's sake?
http://i.cubeupload.com/QDEOwe.png

The list goes on and on and on.
My "experiment" is to see if anything bad happens.
So far, after two days, nothing bad has happened yet.

> it's actually very easy to restore an ios device from a backup, so easy
> that it's just a button click and without needing any 'mainframe
> computers on the net'.

I notice how you cleverly danced around the fact that it's *impossible* to
restore iOS without needing a *SECOND* computer (of any sort, net or no
net), whereas it's trivial do restore an Android system *without* anything
but the Android device itself.

That's only one of very many things that Android can do, all by itself,
that the more primitive and limited iOS can't hope to accomplish all by
itself.
  
> on ios, tapping a screenshot will send it via wifi, which is over 100x
> faster than bluetooth.

Which fails every time when you don't have a network established, which
means you can't do it when you're away from your established network.

So, again, yet another of many things Android does that the primitive and
limited iOS can't even hope to accomplish simply because of the limitations
of the software (the hardware is fine - it's the software that is limited
by Apple as to what it can do).

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Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-21 05:47 +0000
  Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-22 21:13 +0200
    Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-22 22:43 +0000
      Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-23 00:28 -0400
        Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 13:56 +0000
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 10:19 -0400
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 16:21 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:04 -0400
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-23 15:54 -0500
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:22 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 19:25 -0400
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-23 20:20 -0700
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:26 -0400
                Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:12 -0400
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-24 06:57 +0200
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-26 19:53 +0200
          Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 01:09 -0400
            Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com> - 2016-09-24 16:31 +0000
              Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-24 18:17 -0400
      Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-23 08:24 +0200
        Re: Do you "Decline" or "Accept" Google regularly checking on your apps? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-23 10:17 +0100

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