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Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad

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Subject Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad
Date 2020-07-23 16:47 -0400
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In article <rfcsh7$9sj$1@dont-email.me>, Andy Hewitt
<thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:

> For me, digital is for sure a perfect technical representation of a musical
> performance. However, it can often lack Œcharacter¹, and be too clinical.
> Not only that, but a lot of audio tracks are heavily compressed, which can
> be either/and file and/or audio compression).

compression is not unique to digital, and doing it poorly is user
error, not a flaw with digital or analogue.

> It also needs converting from an analogue source (all proper musical
> instruments are analogue) to a digital process, and then back to analogue,
> as that¹s how you hear it. There¹s certainly a high chance that certain
> parts of the sound are destroyed by the process, albeit probably
> imperceptibly to most.

no chance whatsoever that anything is lost when done correctly. 

it's mathematically provable that the result is *identical* to the
original.

> Vinyl, OTOH, is analogue from one end to the other, so no conversion is
> needed. In theory, if you have a well recorded source (applies to both
> types) a good manufacturing process, and a decent playback system, and a
> clean record, there¹s no reason why analogue shouldn¹t sound better. 

yes there is, namely the limitations of vinyl.

the limitations of digital are beyond human hearing, which means it can
reproduce anything you can hear.

> A few
> cracks and pops adds to the character of the experience anyway, IMHO of
> course.

add that back if you enjoy it.

> I have compared vinyl and digital recordings of the same tracks, and
> there¹s no doubt for me what I prefer hearing.

preference is not the same as objective measurable differences.

> But, it¹s all down to personal taste in the end, and can all be very much
> subjective - yeah I know you can measure it all, and show on a graph that
> digital will be better, but that¹s not the whole story.

yes it is.

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Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-20 16:20 +0100
  Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-21 08:41 +0100
    Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad bob <email@domain.com> - 2020-07-21 12:01 +0200
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-21 14:42 +0100
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-21 18:42 +0000
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-21 22:05 +0200
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-22 15:05 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2020-07-22 15:30 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:36 +0100
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-23 07:06 +0000
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-23 17:12 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 16:42 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-24 07:26 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2020-07-24 10:35 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-24 11:51 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 09:57 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-24 11:53 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 13:32 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:03 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 10:15 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-25 10:13 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-24 04:01 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 09:57 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:20 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 10:15 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2020-07-25 10:09 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 12:19 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 11:56 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-25 13:36 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-25 15:37 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-26 11:54 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-26 11:05 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-26 15:23 +0200
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-24 03:49 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2020-07-24 07:03 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 01:58 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 09:57 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-24 08:17 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2020-07-24 10:39 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-24 10:32 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-24 10:37 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:37 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-24 21:55 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-08-04 13:08 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-24 13:32 +0200
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-25 02:23 +0100
  Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 10:25 +0000
    Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-21 11:41 +0100
    Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-21 19:09 +0000
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 22:17 +0000
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-22 15:19 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 15:53 +0000
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2020-07-22 19:21 +0100
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 23:14 +0000
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-22 20:48 +0100
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 23:16 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-22 23:17 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-23 16:02 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-23 17:15 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:54 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-22 22:23 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-22 22:20 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-23 07:09 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2020-07-23 08:11 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 10:43 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 16:07 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 11:35 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 17:07 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 12:23 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 17:40 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 13:01 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-23 22:54 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-23 16:34 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 13:01 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-23 17:47 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 14:20 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-23 20:39 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 16:47 -0400
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:48 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-22 22:19 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-23 10:13 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 10:43 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-24 03:58 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-23 23:21 -0400
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2020-07-23 02:39 +0100
      Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2020-07-29 08:38 +0100
        Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-07-29 17:43 +0000
          Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2020-08-02 09:36 +0100
            Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-02 13:53 +0000
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-02 11:44 -0400
              Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2020-08-03 10:28 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-03 17:42 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 13:44 -0400
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-08-03 18:03 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-03 21:08 +0000
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2020-08-04 12:48 +0100
                Re: Well, finally made the decision to go iPad Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> - 2020-08-04 14:53 +0000

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