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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?

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In article <d1accaFrgqkU3@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> > > That's interesting how they work it differently in Europe than in the USA.
> > > 
> > > In general, in the USA, to RECEIVE a phone call is usually free on 
> > > landlines, but on USA cellphones, it costs minutes to RECEIVE a call just 
> > > as it costs minutes to make a phone call.
> > 
> > which is how it should be because it's using airtime.
> 
>   True, but that doesn't make it right for the receiver to pay, just
> because the caller wants to call hir. 

sure it does, because the receiver chose to use his/her cellphone.

> > > In Europe, it seems, in general, that to RECEIVE a phone call on a local 
> > > SIM card doesn't cost them anything on a cell phone. 
> > 
> > however, there's a surcharge for calling a mobile phone versus a
> > landline.
> 
>   It's not a surcharge, but different pricing. 

word games.

it's a surcharge:
<https://www.fcc.gov/guides/surcharges-international-calls-wireless-phon
es>
  Consumers should be aware that placing an international long distance
  call from your wireline telephone here in the United States to a
  wireless phone in another country may result in a ³surcharge² on your
  bill in addition to your usual charges.

>   Anyway, for most
> providers - at least in our country (NL) -, that's now no longer true.
> I.e. same price landline to landline and landline to mobile.

that's how it should be.

> > why should a caller have to pay extra for something outside their
> > control? anyone who wants to be called on a mobile device should pay
> > for any associated fees, not the callers.
> 
>   See above. Mostly they don't, and *if* they have to, the caller knows
> and can make up hir own mind.

there is no reason to burden the caller to find out what type of phone
the recipient is using.

if the recipient uses a phone that incurs additional charges they
should be the one to pay them.

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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:22 +0000
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:20 +1000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:16 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-23 01:08 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 15:18 +1000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:11 +1000
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-23 18:46 +0000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 14:14 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 17:33 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 08:41 +1000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 10:36 +0200
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-28 20:29 +0000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? madodel ptd News <madodel@ptd.net> - 2015-07-29 13:55 -0400

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