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Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature

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On 17.06.2019 at 13:07, Grant Taylor scribbled:

> On 6/17/19 11:43 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>
> > RedHat has always been self-righteous about their choices.  
> 
> You might not like the source of the data.  But that doesn't mean
> that it's not data.

You conveniently skipped the rest of that paragraph, which was meant to
put things into perspective.

XFS has already long been a mature filesystem, whether it was in IRIX
or in GNU/Linux, and yet up until at least version 6.x of RHEL and
CentOS — which was, what, 2005, 2006? — the installer refused to let you
install any part of the system on XFS partitions, and your only choice
was to accept ext3, which didn't even have its hashed trees enabled by
default (as is the case in ext4).

So the data may be whatever it is.  Just because RedHat doesn't approve
of btrfs doesn't mean that it's worthless.  RedHat has never approved
of KDE either [*], even though they've supplied it as an option until
recently.  But if you realize that RedHat is where GNOME and GTK are
being developed, then things suddenly start looking very different,
don't they?

RedHat is a corporation, and corporations do what's good for them and
for their business.  Facts are not as important to them as the support
from their shareholders.  Furthermore, RedHat wants to be the dominant
player in the enterprise GNU/Linux market.  Appearing steadfast in
their recommendations is part of their corporate propaganda, and
perhaps the fact that btrfs is being developed by Oracle — a competitor
— would also be playing into that.

How many times have you not heard Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer say that
GNU/Linux was insecure, unstable, and the operating system of choice of
terrorists?  Did you believe THAT too?  And their "data" about how the
TCO of Windows was lower than that of GNU/Linux?  

What their "data" of course did not mention was the fact that they were
comparing a Windows installation on a decently priced commodity PC to a
GNU/Linux installation running in a virtual machine on a Sun mainframe.
So yeah, mainframes tend to be a little costlier than commodity PCs,
indeed. <rolling my eyes>

Whom the data comes from and what their agenda is, is just as important
as the data themselves.


[*] They even had a genuine hate campaign going on against KDE for
    several years because KDE 1.x was built upon the then still not
    freely licensed QT libraries, but even though this was changed for
    QT2 and KDE2, RedHat continued to boycott and libel KDE for several
    more years — all throughout the lifetime of KDE2 and the early
    years of KDE3 — which earned them the moniker HatRed.

-- 
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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tip: sweet grep recurse feature T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 03:15 -0700
  Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 08:46 -0500
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2019-06-13 09:51 -0400
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 09:17 -0600
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 11:22 -0400
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 09:56 -0600
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 17:29 +0100
        Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 15:38 -0400
          Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-14 09:49 +0100
            Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-14 04:39 -0500
              Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-14 12:11 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-14 07:11 -0500
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2019-06-14 09:07 -0400
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 12:44 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-06-14 14:20 -0500
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-15 03:18 +0000
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-06-14 23:05 -0500
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2019-06-17 09:44 +0300
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Fenris <fenris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-17 10:21 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 12:50 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:37 +0200
              Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:01 -0400
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 12:55 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 17:54 -0400
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 20:20 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:42 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-15 11:09 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 12:37 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 12:51 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 12:57 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 14:20 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-17 08:51 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 19:43 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 20:38 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-17 13:07 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 21:56 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-17 22:30 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 22:19 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-17 19:43 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-18 10:26 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-18 23:58 +0000
            Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:07 -0400
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 19:42 +0100
  Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-13 14:58 -0400
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 14:29 -0600
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-13 16:38 -0400
  Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-15 03:10 +0000
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:46 +0200
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:16 +0100
        Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-15 13:16 +0000
          Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-15 11:12 -0600
            Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-15 22:26 +0100
          Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-15 20:09 +0000
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-16 14:29 -0700

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