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Le 17/06/2019 à 21:56, Aragorn a écrit :
> On 17.06.2019 at 13:07, Grant Taylor scribbled:
> 
>> On 6/17/19 11:43 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>>
>>> RedHat has always been self-righteous about their choices.  
>>
>> You might not like the source of the data.  But that doesn't mean
>> that it's not data.
> 
> You conveniently skipped the rest of that paragraph, which was meant to
> put things into perspective.
> 
> XFS has already long been a mature filesystem, whether it was in IRIX
> or in GNU/Linux, and yet up until at least version 6.x of RHEL and
> CentOS — which was, what, 2005, 2006? — the installer refused to let you
> install any part of the system on XFS partitions, and your only choice
> was to accept ext3, which didn't even have its hashed trees enabled by
> default (as is the case in ext4).
> 
> So the data may be whatever it is.  Just because RedHat doesn't approve
> of btrfs doesn't mean that it's worthless.  RedHat has never approved
> of KDE either [*], even though they've supplied it as an option until
> recently.  But if you realize that RedHat is where GNOME and GTK are
> being developed, then things suddenly start looking very different,
> don't they?
> 
> RedHat is a corporation, and corporations do what's good for them and
> for their business.  Facts are not as important to them as the support
> from their shareholders.  Furthermore, RedHat wants to be the dominant
> player in the enterprise GNU/Linux market.  Appearing steadfast in
> their recommendations is part of their corporate propaganda, and
> perhaps the fact that btrfs is being developed by Oracle — a competitor
> — would also be playing into that.
> 
> How many times have you not heard Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer say that
> GNU/Linux was insecure, unstable, and the operating system of choice of
> terrorists?  Did you believe THAT too?  And their "data" about how the
> TCO of Windows was lower than that of GNU/Linux?  
> 
> What their "data" of course did not mention was the fact that they were
> comparing a Windows installation on a decently priced commodity PC to a
> GNU/Linux installation running in a virtual machine on a Sun mainframe.
> So yeah, mainframes tend to be a little costlier than commodity PCs,
> indeed. <rolling my eyes>
> 
> Whom the data comes from and what their agenda is, is just as important
> as the data themselves.
> 
> 
> [*] They even had a genuine hate campaign going on against KDE for
>     several years because KDE 1.x was built upon the then still not
>     freely licensed QT libraries, but even though this was changed for
>     QT2 and KDE2, RedHat continued to boycott and libel KDE for several
>     more years — all throughout the lifetime of KDE2 and the early
>     years of KDE3 — which earned them the moniker HatRed.
> 

Hi, thank you Aragorn for writing that clever post ;)

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tip: sweet grep recurse feature T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 03:15 -0700
  Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 08:46 -0500
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2019-06-13 09:51 -0400
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 09:17 -0600
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 11:22 -0400
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 09:56 -0600
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 17:29 +0100
        Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 15:38 -0400
          Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-14 09:49 +0100
            Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-14 04:39 -0500
              Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-14 12:11 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-14 07:11 -0500
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2019-06-14 09:07 -0400
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 12:44 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-06-14 14:20 -0500
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-15 03:18 +0000
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-06-14 23:05 -0500
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2019-06-17 09:44 +0300
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Fenris <fenris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-17 10:21 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 12:50 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:37 +0200
              Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:01 -0400
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 12:55 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 17:54 -0400
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 20:20 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:42 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-15 11:09 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 12:37 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 12:51 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 12:57 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 14:20 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-17 08:51 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 19:43 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 20:38 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-17 13:07 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-17 21:56 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-17 22:30 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-17 22:19 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-17 19:43 -0600
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-18 10:26 +0200
                Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-18 23:58 +0000
            Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-14 08:07 -0400
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-13 19:42 +0100
  Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-13 14:58 -0400
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 14:29 -0600
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-13 16:38 -0400
  Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-15 03:10 +0000
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:46 +0200
      Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-15 13:16 +0100
        Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-15 13:16 +0000
          Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-15 11:12 -0600
            Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-15 22:26 +0100
          Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-06-15 20:09 +0000
    Re: tip: sweet grep recurse feature T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-16 14:29 -0700

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