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Re: OT ? astonishing 'Zoo Theory'

From D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: OT ? astonishing 'Zoo Theory'
Date 2018-01-02 14:36 +0000
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Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> In article <717b31ea-38f8-40a4-a59a-d2666828a54d@googlegroups.com>,
> Kevrob  <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 11:22:59 PM UTC-5, a425couple wrote:
>>> Why aliens are not contacting us if they know about humans? Explains
>>> astonishing ???Zoo Theory???
>>>
>>
>>Obviously, the Andromeda Hegemony can't interfere in
>>our development.  It would violate their Prime Directive!
>>
>>That is unfalsifiable: "Any sufficiently advanced alien
>>species is hiding from us, successfully?"
>
> Can you blame them?
>

Talk about monstrous humanity always reminds me of a couple of stories.
The first is "Citadel" (Budrys). Alien species hatred of humanity gets
mentioned during its denouement, an excerpt of which is shown below the
spoiler space.
    The other story with monstrous humanity is "Hostess" (Asimov).
There's five intelligent races in the universe, but only humans die of
old age.

*spoiler space*


        Ud Klavan rose from his chair. "You are also right,
    Marlowe. You are a race of maniacs, gibbering across the
    stars. And know, Marlowe, that the other races of the
    universe hate you."
        Marlowe with a tremendous effort heaved himself out
    of his chair.
        "Hate us?" He lumbered around the desk and advanced
    on the frightened Dovenilid, who was retreating backwards
    before his path.
        "Can't you see it? Don't you understand that, if we
    are to pursue any course of action over a long time-if we
    are ever going to achieve a galaxy in which an Earthman
    can some day live at peace with himself-we must each day
    violate all the moral codes and creeds which we held
    inviolate the day before? That we must fight against every
    ideal, every principle which our fathers taught us, because
    they no longer apply to our new logic?
        "You hate us!" He thrust his fat hand, its nails bitten
    down to the quick and beyond, in front of the cringing
    alien's eyes.
        "You poor, weak, single-minded, ineffectual thing! We
    hate ourselves!"

    "Citadel" (Budrys)
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/26191/26191-h/26191-h.htm

Note.

1. http://archive.org/stream/galaxymagazine-1951-05/Galaxy_1951_05#page/n87/mode/2up

Thank you,

--
Don

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OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-01-01 20:22 -0800
  Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-01-01 21:04 -0800
    Re: Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-01-02 05:08 +0000
      Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-01-01 22:14 -0800
        Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-01-01 22:58 -0800
          Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-01-02 07:20 -0500
          Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-02 12:24 -0700
            Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-01-02 22:47 -0500
      Re: OT ? astonishing 'Zoo Theory' D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-01-02 14:36 +0000
    Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-01-02 02:19 -0800
  Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-01-01 22:52 -0800
  Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 12:10 -0600
    Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-04 11:41 -0700
      Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Leo Sgouros <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 10:50 -0800
      Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Wolffan <aklwolffan@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 16:27 -0500
        Re: OT ? astonishing ‘Zoo Theory’ Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-01-04 14:16 -0800

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