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Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway?

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway?
Date 2017-03-15 10:00 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> writes:
>Anyway I don't read this as a genuine paean for an ideal language, but
>just as Paul Graham thinking ahead about Arc. "People will complain
>about the hackish terse words -- I'll praise that." "People will
>prefer Common Lisp -- I'll put in a gibe about code that's retained
>for compatibility." "It's not going to be fast -- I'll say what every
>scripting language advocate says about that."

Conversely, he may have described what likes and does not like about
Common Lisp, and then decided to do something about the "not-likes",
and designed Arc.

And yes, one could do similar things wrt Forth, and its dialects.
Typically, people have been more on the "do" side than on the "write"
side of this (e.g., Chuck Moore, Hans Bezemer, Slava Pestov, Ron
Aaron, Franck Benunsan), with Hugh Aguilar being the exception that
proves the rule.

- anton
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What's so great about Forth, anyway? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-14 13:07 -0500
  Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 11:54 -0700
    Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 15:53 -0400
    Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 19:24 -0700
    Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-15 10:00 +0000
      Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 12:57 -0400
        Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 11:09 -0700
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-16 04:05 -0500
        Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-16 09:41 +0000
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-16 10:57 -0700
            Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 14:41 -0400
      Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 11:34 -0700
      Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 03:24 -0700
        Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-22 11:24 -1000
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 14:51 -0700
        Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-23 04:25 -0500
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 14:58 -0700
            Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-24 03:03 -0500
              Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 04:52 -0700
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-24 09:06 -0500
        Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 07:47 -0700
        Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 17:13 +0000
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 13:48 -0700
        Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 18:34 -0700
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 18:52 -0700
            Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-29 11:53 +0000
              Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:09 +0300
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-29 13:58 +0000
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 17:24 +0300
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? The Beez <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 03:04 -0700
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 15:30 +0300
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? The Beez <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 05:36 -0700
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-04 16:35 +0000
                Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-05 11:46 -0700
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-28 16:12 -1000
            Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-29 11:59 +0000
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-29 10:24 +0000
          Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2017-04-04 04:05 -0700
      Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 13:18 -0700
  Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 12:20 -0700
  Re: What's so great about Forth, anyway? gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-04-02 19:52 -0700
  Nothing's great about Forth "Robert L." <No_spamming@noWhere_7073.org> - 2017-04-04 10:45 +0000
    Re: Nothing's great about Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 08:00 -0700
    Re: Nothing's great about Forth lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 08:16 -0700
    Re: Nothing's great about Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 09:11 -0700
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