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Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism
Date 2016-09-02 11:45 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2016Sep2.134548@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> writes:
>Op Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:47:37 -0700 (PDT) schreef hughaguilar96@gmail.com:
><snip>
>>: test ]] s" Howdy!" [[ ; immediate 
>> Err# -13 ERR: Undefined word.
>>  -> : test ]] s" Howdy!" [[ ; immediate
>
>You stupid child, in essence you do the same as
>: test postpone s" Howdy!" ;
>You have learned that s" is a parsing word.
>You may compile it, but no real Forth programmer
>expects that it will compile the following string
>during the compilation of test.

Whatever a "real Forth programmer" may be.

The idea of S" is actually to behave in interpretation and compilation
state as if the string was part of the word (unlike, e.g., ').  So you
can write

: foo s" abc" ;
s" abc"

and both will parse 'abc"' at parse time, and push the string
descriptor at run-time.

The idea of ]]...[[ is to provide something like a postpone state, so
ideally ]] s" abc" [[ should parse 'abc"' at parse time, and push the
descriptor at run-time, too.  That does not work because of the
details of S" and ]]...[[, but ideally it would.  And with the string
recognizer, it actually does (tested with the development version of
Gforth):

: test ]] "Howdy!" [[ ; immediate  ok
: foo test ;  ok
foo type Howdy! ok

- anton
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Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-24 15:27 +0000
  Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:43 -0700
    Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-25 09:53 +0000
      Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 06:41 -0700
        Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-25 16:06 -0500
          Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-08-25 20:40 -0700
            Rosetta Code ( was Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-29 12:06 +1000
              Re: Rosetta Code ( was Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism) Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-29 01:41 -0500
        Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-27 10:01 +0000
          Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-29 01:21 -0700
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-29 01:36 -0700
              Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 07:23 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-29 16:58 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2016-08-29 13:15 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-29 20:53 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2016-08-30 04:47 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-05 07:13 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-30 11:54 +1000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-31 12:34 +1000
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-29 18:44 +1000
              Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 23:47 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 12:42 +0200
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-02 11:45 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 15:01 +0200
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-02 16:04 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-02 16:23 +0200
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Bruce Axtens <bruce.axtens@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 18:29 +0800
              Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 13:41 +0300
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Bruce Axtens <bruce.axtens@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 09:24 +0800
                Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-01 13:45 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-02 21:54 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-04 07:35 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 00:41 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 02:55 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-04 13:26 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-04 13:59 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 23:09 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 09:55 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 08:39 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 01:25 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-04 14:13 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 23:16 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 22:33 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 09:03 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-06 23:23 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:14 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-07 01:01 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 11:18 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-09-07 08:47 -0500
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 09:20 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-05 02:21 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-05 08:10 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 10:51 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-03 08:05 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-09-03 03:00 -0500
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-03 22:48 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-09-03 15:05 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:46 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-03 23:53 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-09-03 22:37 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-03 21:17 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-05 02:35 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-05 03:18 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-08 22:04 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-08 12:41 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-09 12:51 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-08 21:50 -0700
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                Re: Standard or Forth? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-12 16:59 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-15 13:38 +1000
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                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 08:41 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-05 01:42 -0700
          Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-08-29 16:03 +0200
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-29 16:04 +0000

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