Re: Standard or Forth?

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Standard or Forth?
Date	2016-09-08 12:41 -0700
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"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> writes:
> ANS does not require a program to have "absolute portability".  What
> it does require is that non-portabilities be documented.  Despite the
> low bar ANS has placed on program portability, there has been very
> little interest in writing them.  That includes me.  You can ask why
> it is, but the fact of it cannot be denied.

Forth is unusual among programming languages in that its target
environments very often involve special hardware.  For such programs the
concept of portability doesn't apply since there is nothing to port to.

I've thought of ANS as providing a common word set for programmers to
expect to work on multiple systems, but in general they will expect to
add target-specific code for their own application environment.  An
example of something ANS standardizes is that OR means inclusive or.
There are some non-standard systems where it means exclusive or.  

ANS just means there is a base wordset that does what you expect it to
do.  It doesn't claim to give you everything you need.  You are on your
own for stuff that's not in the standard.

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Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-24 15:27 +0000
  Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:43 -0700
    Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-25 09:53 +0000
      Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 06:41 -0700
        Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-25 16:06 -0500
          Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-08-25 20:40 -0700
            Rosetta Code ( was Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-29 12:06 +1000
              Re: Rosetta Code ( was Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism) Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-08-29 01:41 -0500
        Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-27 10:01 +0000
          Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-29 01:21 -0700
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-08-29 01:36 -0700
              Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 07:23 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-29 16:58 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2016-08-29 13:15 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-29 20:53 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2016-08-30 04:47 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-05 07:13 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-30 11:54 +1000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-31 12:34 +1000
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-08-29 18:44 +1000
              Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 23:47 -0700
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 12:42 +0200
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-02 11:45 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 15:01 +0200
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-02 16:04 +0000
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-02 16:23 +0200
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Bruce Axtens <bruce.axtens@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 18:29 +0800
              Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 13:41 +0300
                Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism Bruce Axtens <bruce.axtens@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 09:24 +0800
                Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-01 13:45 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-02 21:54 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-04 07:35 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 00:41 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 02:55 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-04 13:26 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-04 13:59 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 23:09 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 09:55 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 08:39 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 01:25 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-04 14:13 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 23:16 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-04 22:33 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 09:03 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-06 23:23 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:14 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-07 01:01 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 11:18 +0300
                Re: Standard or Forth? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-09-07 08:47 -0500
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 09:20 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-05 02:21 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-05 08:10 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 10:51 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-03 08:05 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-09-03 03:00 -0500
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-03 22:48 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-09-03 15:05 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 07:46 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-03 23:53 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-09-03 22:37 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-03 21:17 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-05 02:35 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-05 03:18 +0200
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-08 22:04 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-08 12:41 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-09 12:51 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-08 21:50 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-12 17:16 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-09-12 16:59 +0000
                Re: Standard or Forth? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-09-15 13:38 +1000
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-08 23:33 -0700
                Re: Standard or Forth? Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-09-05 08:41 +0100
                Re: Standard or Forth? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-09-05 01:42 -0700
          Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-08-29 16:03 +0200
            Re: Rosetta Code: Catamorphism anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-08-29 16:04 +0000

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