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Re: We're fat, spoiled brats.

From	Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: We're fat, spoiled brats.
Date	2016-08-17 23:48 +0200
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:07:11 -0700
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:

> On 2016-08-17, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> > On 08/17/16 09:44, Marek Novotny wrote:  
> >> On 2016-08-17, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> // snip
> >>  
> >>> You have to be careful with Chrisv.  She can turn on you if there
> >>> is a very strong disagreement and start calling you a POS.
> >>> That's when you know she isn't advocating linux, and I still
> >>> wonder why she is still posting here running windows XP for all
> >>> these years... just a heads up.  
> >>
> >> We already disagree on a few things. One of which is Samsung vs.
> >> Apple. I say Samsung is the far better company. Chrisv feels
> >> higher profits are better. I understand the point of view, but I
> >> will always prefer a well diversified company to a one-trick pony
> >> company. 
> >
> > Apple is that one-trick pony company.
> > Wife likes her iMac to a certain degree, but feels they just rushed
> > it out the door for profit reasons... and then a few months later a
> > trickle of updates, and mostly for iTunes.
> >  
> >> There were other disagreements as well, I don't remember them off
> >> hand. Where I come from everyone pretty much disagrees and argues.
> >> But in COLA the trolls take advantage of it. No Linux user I've
> >> ever known was in agreement with another. We've always had our own
> >> beliefs. Just mention systemd and see for yourself.  
> >
> > Oh, there will always be disagreements on many topics.  Human
> > nature. 
> >>
> >> We also poke fun at ourselves. Every year there is a "Why Linux
> >> Sux" conference and we trash talk Linux there. I bet most of you
> >> don't know that but it's true. I don't raise issues here because
> >> trolls will just spin it all day. But in a normal setting we don't
> >> talk about the good only. We talk about everything and just know
> >> it is work in progress. You can look up just about anything
> >> version wise in Linux and then look again in a month. It will have
> >> evolved a little.
> >>
> >> How many people in here used to not use Network Manager vs how
> >> many rely on it now? I wrote my own OpenVPN script, complete with
> >> a menu of end points which generates an ovpn conf file on the fly
> >> for the use of that one connection. I do it because it was
> >> honestly easier to write that then it was to try and configure
> >> Network Manager for anything beyond one end point.
> >>  
> >
> > At least you got into it and got your hands dirty, so to speak.
> >  
> >> But there exists these trolls and they want to paint things in a
> >> black and white way. Oh look, someone found a post on a help forum
> >> asking for help. Who'd have thought. They put on their chicken
> >> little hat and cry the sky is falling, no seriously, the SKY IS
> >> FALLING!! Look!! Someone posted a help topic. It's retarded. Then
> >> that same person says, all Linux advocates are liars. Now, I'm
> >> supposed to consider this is a normal guy with a normal job? How
> >> the hell am I supposed to see that person as anything other than a
> >> twisted moron troll? 
> >
> > You just have to call it like it is.
> > I use windows, os x, vms, solaris, etc.  All have their strong
> > points. I like solaris the best because of the internal way of
> > things keeps the system up and running without wondering what
> > happened.  I still have to get my ram sticks replaced as Solaris is
> > now nagging me to take care of it.  It's starting to rope off areas
> > of unusable ram. 
> >> If Chrisv or anyone else for that matter disagrees with me, I
> >> really couldn't care less. What someone does with that
> >> disagreement is another matter. Perhaps my closest usenet friend
> >> HATES systemd so much he may well switch to FreeBSD. I don't hate
> >> systemd at all. Not even slightly. Is it changing Linux? Yes. And
> >> as I have said I like UNIX. And UNIX doesn't have a systemd. It
> >> has init. But if you ask me straight up, which is easier to
> >> modify, init or systemd. I'll have to opine systemd. And I'd
> >> further opine that you don't even have to know shell to do it. 
> >
> > That is good to know.  Been too lazy to look into systemd.
> >  
> >> Is systemd perfect? No. init has been around for decades. It's
> >> stable. systemd needs work. So until all the kinks are worked out,
> >> people will poke it and call out every problem it has. So do we as
> >> Linux users dump Linux over this? Some will. I won't. It would be
> >> easy. I already use FreeBSD for all kinds of things, the top two
> >> being my firewall and my NAS and I have no intention of changing
> >> my mind on either one of those. And that's not a knock on Linux.
> >>
> >> On my VPS, I just use IPTables. That's Linux and it's a firewall.
> >> Now to someone who wants to paint a black and white issue, they
> >> can. They can say, why not stick with one or the other? I don't
> >> think that way at all. IP Tables is just there already. I'll just
> >> use it on a VPS because, why not?
> >>
> >> If another Linux user disagrees with me it should not be taken as
> >> anything more than dark blue is my favorite color and ymmv. You
> >> like what you like. Lastly, I'm here because I'm actually a Linux
> >> user. I'm also on a FreeBSD mailing list and I listen to FreeBSD
> >> podcasts. I am a member of the FreeBSD foundation. I'm a member of
> >> the Document Foundation and the Free Software Foundation among
> >> others. My favorite license is the GPL v2.
> >>
> >> You like Solaris if I'm not mistaken. I like Solaris as well. If
> >> it is real UNIX, not that iCrap, I'll like it. I'll feel right at
> >> home on it. Linux is simply what I like most. It's not a black and
> >> white issue. 
> >
> > I like UNIX better than linux, only because of the conservative
> > approach to additions.  But Solaris also wants money for upgrades.
> > So it was easier to just download free Solaris and just copy over
> > my stuff to it.  
> 
> I have Open Solaris. And if we didn't talk about this in the past
> already I had two SparcStaions. One was a SuperSparc and the other
> was a Sparc clone, I forget the name. And I very much wanted the
> Ultra Sparc 1 which is what I got my formal training on in 98/99. I
> owned my own 30 drive Sun drawer type of array. I believe the model
> 102. I think I actually dug up the receipts and posted them here or
> on another group because it was funny that I just found them by
> chance along with a stack of old certifications I thought I lost. 
> 
> So I started on Solaris 2.5. I'd say maybe a year ago I grabbed Open
> Solaris and started running that. My last memory of Solaris was with
> CDE. Now it's got Gnome. Times they do change. 
> 

Well , kernel really does not matters as long as there are gnu tools ;p
But I prefer Linux, as distros are now very easy to maintain and
upgrade... to to much thinkering any more,things just work...

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          Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-27 10:06 -0500
            Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-27 10:34 -0500
              Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 18:07 +0200
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                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-29 11:31 -0600
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 13:48 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-07-30 04:26 -0700
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                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 16:33 +0200
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 09:22 -0500
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-02 08:31 -0700
                Speaking of chicken shits... did you preen your feathers yet today?  LOL!!! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-02 10:55 -0600
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 20:13 +0200
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 06:45 -0500
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-04 06:02 -0700
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 19:03 +0200
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 12:10 -0500
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 12:17 -0500
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                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 20:30 +0200
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-05 13:20 -0600
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-04 13:35 -0700
                We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-04 19:25 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-05 13:22 -0600
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                Re: Income inequality is _not_ a problem, never ever. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-06 10:31 -0700
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                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 08:21 -0700
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-05 13:21 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-08 17:22 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-08 16:16 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 20:06 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-09 03:42 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 08:21 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-09 09:48 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 12:18 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 11:03 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 11:51 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 13:55 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-12 15:07 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 15:58 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 15:52 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 17:20 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 18:24 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 18:30 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 18:55 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 19:27 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 20:18 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 20:44 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 21:50 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-13 04:19 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 07:01 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 19:54 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 20:21 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 21:13 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-13 04:19 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:24 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 19:27 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-12 20:02 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 20:51 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-13 04:19 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 08:56 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:16 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 09:18 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:20 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 09:23 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:38 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-13 19:26 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 19:42 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-14 05:06 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 09:45 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-14 10:08 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 11:09 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-14 16:30 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-14 17:05 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 17:14 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-14 17:31 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 20:38 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-14 17:46 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-14 17:51 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 21:06 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-14 18:15 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-14 18:18 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 21:28 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-14 18:41 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-14 18:56 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 22:30 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-14 19:52 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-14 20:23 -0700
                Re: DooFu$ is a diabetic, fat, spoiled brat. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-08-15 11:44 +0100
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-15 09:07 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 07:57 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 05:19 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 08:21 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 07:24 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 08:30 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 07:44 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 10:54 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 07:58 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 11:12 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 08:34 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 12:04 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. John Taylor <taylorjohng@europe.com> - 2016-08-15 16:30 +0000
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-15 09:51 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-15 09:51 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 09:52 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 13:02 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 10:06 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 13:11 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-15 14:32 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 12:09 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 13:52 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 14:49 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 13:08 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 17:48 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 17:08 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-15 21:28 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 18:39 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 22:41 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-16 07:54 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-16 08:16 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 21:58 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 21:53 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 18:56 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 22:49 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 19:52 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 22:55 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 20:00 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 23:01 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-16 07:16 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-16 07:08 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:19 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-16 15:06 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 13:28 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-16 08:09 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-16 13:30 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:05 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:05 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 08:53 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-17 12:15 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 11:26 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-17 21:48 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 21:18 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-18 12:42 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:00 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-08-16 13:48 +0100
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-16 08:13 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 08:23 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-16 08:46 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 11:02 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:07 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:07 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-16 13:39 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-16 14:07 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 21:12 +0000
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-16 14:22 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-16 14:37 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-16 14:56 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-16 14:30 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-16 14:53 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-08-16 22:17 +0100
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-16 14:33 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-16 14:22 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 22:40 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-16 05:01 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:10 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:09 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 21:57 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 08:44 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-17 11:51 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-17 12:24 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-17 12:23 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 12:07 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-17 23:48 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 15:01 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-18 00:13 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 15:30 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 15:41 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-18 00:44 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-17 21:56 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 21:57 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-18 08:41 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-18 12:44 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-18 20:51 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-18 16:46 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-17 21:53 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-17 21:42 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-18 12:51 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-15 06:31 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 10:00 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 07:10 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 08:19 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 07:21 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 06:54 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 07:59 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-14 17:52 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-14 17:38 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 20:40 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-14 17:43 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 08:29 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-15 09:40 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 09:55 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 07:48 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 10:51 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-15 07:57 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-15 10:27 -0500
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-16 00:09 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-16 02:58 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-16 22:12 -0600
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 09:54 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 17:12 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-14 17:51 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 18:26 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-18 10:03 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 07:34 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-15 08:42 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 10:10 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-13 07:52 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 08:11 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-13 10:32 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-13 10:33 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 06:23 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 08:05 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-13 08:58 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 09:03 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 17:53 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. "Henry" <henry@alpha.org> - 2016-08-21 07:24 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-21 09:35 -0400
                Re: Wives cost a _ton_ more; same for programmers. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 12:02 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-13 19:22 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-09 06:51 -0500
                Re: Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-09 19:15 -0400
                Re: Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 19:17 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-10 01:17 +0200
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-08-09 20:10 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 22:39 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-10 07:38 -0500
                The ( SpinFree ) context. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-08-10 07:04 -0700
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 20:41 -0400
                Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-09 20:56 -0400
                Re: Re: We're fat, spoiled brats. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-08-11 21:12 +0200
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-04 19:40 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 19:46 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-05 13:23 -0600
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 19:52 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 18:52 +0200
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-04 11:31 -0600
                Says the POS known as Turdv.  Guffaw!!! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-04 11:29 -0600
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-06 11:54 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 12:05 -0400
                Re: It seems you need to see a doctor for your burned butt. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-07-28 17:05 -0600
            Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 18:02 +0200
            Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-07-27 18:51 -0400
              Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-28 06:53 -0500
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 08:06 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-07-28 18:02 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 18:06 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-07-28 18:02 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-07-28 20:47 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 21:04 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-29 06:53 -0500
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-07-29 21:46 -0400
                Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-07-30 09:20 -0400
  re: [ot] Bose QC 35 "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 18:42 +0200
  Re: [ot] Bose QC 35 nhp.bus@gmail.com - 2016-07-27 04:01 -0700

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