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Re: D>F and S>F first draft

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: D>F and S>F first draft
Date 2015-11-23 11:50 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2015Nov23.125007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes:
>On 11/22/15 9:48 AM, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>> There has been a at least 20 year long complaint about the lack of Forth
>> libraries, but if we can't make Forth systems sufficiently compatible with
>> each others by leaving too many things ambiguous, that situation will stay
>> that way.
>
>It's more like 40 years. I do not think the problem is with "ambiguity," 
>it's because a lot of people would rather write "yet another Forth"

Now why is that?  Why do people like to write yet another system when
they are dealing with Forth, while they like to write libraries when
they are dealing with Python?  Maybe it's because the Forth standard
makes it hard to write portable libraries (in order to make it easier
to claim that your system is standard), while Python makes it easier.

- anton
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RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft C G Montgomery <cgm@physics.utoledo.edu> - 2015-11-21 17:59 -0500
  Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-22 18:25 +1100
    Re: D>F and S>F  first draft krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-22 06:20 -0800
      Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-23 10:58 +1100
        Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-23 02:57 +0100
          Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-24 13:16 +1100
            Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-23 18:49 -0800
              Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-25 11:51 +1100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-24 17:26 -0800
            Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-25 02:43 +0100
              Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-26 12:16 +1100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-25 17:47 -0800
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-26 15:47 +1100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-25 23:07 -0800
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-26 07:27 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-26 09:19 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-28 04:26 +1100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-28 11:31 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-29 20:23 +1100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-29 20:39 +0100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-12-05 17:48 +1100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 23:58 -0800
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft mhx@iae.nl - 2015-12-05 02:19 -0800
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-05 11:25 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F first draft Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-05 13:11 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft mhx@iae.nl - 2015-12-05 05:27 -0800
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-05 15:33 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft mhx@iae.nl - 2015-12-07 10:10 -0800
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-09 16:58 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-12-06 10:23 -0800
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-12-06 21:37 +0100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-12-05 19:08 +0100
                Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-30 08:33 +0000
                Re: D>F and S>F first draft "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-25 21:43 -1000
                Re: D>F and S>F first draft "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-11-28 19:28 +1100
                Re: D>F and S>F first draft Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-26 11:37 +0000
    Re: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-22 15:10 +0000
    Re: D>F and S>F  first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-22 20:48 +0100
      Re: D>F and S>F first draft "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-22 13:42 -1000
        Re: D>F and S>F first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-23 11:50 +0000
          Re: D>F and S>F first draft "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-23 12:46 -1000
            Forth libraries Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-24 08:55 +0100
  Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-22 06:33 -0800
    Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-22 16:00 +0000
      Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-22 08:53 -0800
        Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-22 09:11 -0800
        Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-22 18:24 +0000
      Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-22 09:07 -0800
        Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-11-22 18:10 +0000
        Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-22 18:26 +0000
          Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 13:58 -0500
            Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-23 12:34 +0000
              Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-23 16:39 +0000
              Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-24 03:00 +0100
            Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-23 13:48 +0100
              Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft mhx@iae.nl - 2015-11-23 05:19 -0800
                Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft mhx@iae.nl - 2015-11-23 16:09 -0800
        Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-22 20:42 +0100
    Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft C G Montgomery <cgm@physics.utoledo.edu> - 2015-11-22 16:43 -0500
      Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-22 18:40 -0800
        Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-22 18:51 -0800
        Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft C G Montgomery <cgm@physics.utoledo.edu> - 2015-11-25 15:47 -0500
  Re: RfD: D>F and S>F  first draft anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-22 14:29 +0000
  Re: RfD: D>F and S>F first draft "David N. Williams" <williams@umich.edu> - 2015-11-22 10:41 -0600

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