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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: OT: Farewell Windows |
| Date | 2015-08-10 07:41 +0000 |
| Organization | Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien |
| Message-ID | <2015Aug10.094159@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink) |
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"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes:
>On 8/8/15 10:52 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 05:32:27 -0400, Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, intelligence amplifies your capabilities, and allows you
>>> to work around limitations.
>>
>> Of course, it can also be argued that intelligence dulls your ambition
>> and chances at success. This is because smart people can rationalize
>> anything and will reject potentially invalid solutions as a waste of
>> time. Stupid people are too dumb to realize that the same solution
>> shouldn't work in the first place. So, they'll try it. In many
>> instances, the stupid succeed where smart people fail. This is why
>> there is no proven correlation between intelligence and wealth.
Before more people fall for this red herring, where Rod first makes
some claims that are more likelt to point to income than wealth, and
wants to support them with a statement about wealth (and then protests
when somebody points out that there is a positive correlation between
IQ and income), let's look at what Google finds for "intelligence
wealth":
From: <http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/intlwlth.htm>
|The results confirmed research by other scholars that show people with
|higher IQ scores tend to earn higher incomes. In this study, each
|point increase in IQ scores was associated with $202 to $616 more
|income per year.
|
|This means the average income difference between a person with an IQ
|score in the normal range (100) and someone in the top 2 percent of
|society (130) is currently between $6,000 and $18,500 a year.
|
|But when it came to total wealth and the likelihood of financial
|difficulties, people of below average and average intelligence did
|just fine when compared with the super-intelligent.
|
|The study could find no strong relationship between total wealth and
|intelligence. How could high-IQ people, on average, earn higher
|incomes but still not have more wealth than others? Zagorsky said this
|data can't provide an answer, but it suggests that high-IQ people are
|not saving as much as others.
Is it intelligent to save money to have a better standing in Rod's
wealth ranking? Or is it intelligent to spend the money you earn on
things that you want and that make your work more enjoyable?
In any case, it seems to me that the income results contradict Rods
claim that "intelligence dulls your ambition and chances at success",
and that "In many instances, the stupid succeed where smart people
fail", even though income is not a universal goal of ambitions and
metric of success.
- anton
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