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Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad

From	anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups	comp.arch.embedded, comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad
Date	2015-04-20 15:33 +0000
Organization	Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID	<2015Apr20.173323@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
>On 18/04/15 15:08, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
>> So what?  The distro also installs stuff like nano and an inetd that
>> most people don't use.
>
>Yes, but nano is provides an essential function - a simple command-line 
>editor.  And it takes about 100 KB - as compared to eclipse at about 100 
>MB or so.  Eclipse is useful to many programmers (I use it myself), and 
>equally it is despised by many programmers.  But the cost (in terms of 
>disk space, network download, etc.) is significant for those that don't 
>need it - unlike the cost of nano.

187KB, and it does not even have Emacs or vi key bindings.  I wonder
what it is doing with all that space, but it's certainly nothing I
use.

Looking at the popularity-contest results, some form of vi seems to be
installed more often than nano (it seems that there are people who
uninstall nano), so Debian could install vi in the first place.

Anyway, not installing a programmer's editor and installing nano
instead supports my claim that they do not target programmers.

name                  inst  vote   old recent no-files (maintainer) 
nano                 170116 32133 119241 18640   102 (Jordi Mallach)
vim-common           174062 59805 87555  26616    86 (Debian Vim Mai
vim                   67701 23297  36271  8105    28 (Debian Vim Mai
vim-tiny             169261 13839 120285 35040    97 (Debian Vim Mai
emacsen-common        54751 10282  37601  6821    47 (Rob Browning) 
emacs23-bin-common    16067  5231  10516   312     8 (Rob Browning) 
emacs23               13261  4400   8585   271     5 (Rob Browning) 
emacs24-bin-common     6512  3233   2460   819     0 (Rob Browning) 
emacs24                5696  2811   2135   750     0 (Rob Browning) 
emacs24-common         6521  1526   3820  1166     9 (Rob Browning) 
emacs23-common        16092  1392  14170   497    33 (Rob Browning) 
eclipse-platform-data  7092  1840   3736  1511     5 (Debian Orbital
eclipse-rcp            7249  1700   4112  1429     8 (Debian Orbital
eclipse-platform       6962  1628   3914  1414     6 (Debian Orbital
eclipse-jdt            6903  1185   5290   369    59 (Debian Orbital
eclipse-pde            6859  1184   5292   368    15 (Debian Orbital

>> Somehow, when I last looked (a few years ago),
>> Debian installed nothing that I use, except a shell and apt-get;
>> that's ok when I ask for a minimal install, but requiring 600MB for
>> that alone is a bit stiff.  Anyway, in the old days distros used to
>> have options that said "typical server", "typical desktop", "typical
>> development environment"; I have not seen the latter option for a
>> number of years.
>
>Some distros still have it (or are by their nature a "typical desktop" 
>or "typical server", such as Linux Mint or Centos).

Which one still has "typical development environment"?

>>>> As for /opt, I don't know where that nonsense comes from, but it
>>>> certainly does not come from the original Unix.  Proper programs are
>>>> installed in one of the directories that users have in the PATH by
>>>> default (such as /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin) rather than somewhere in
>>>> /opt (which indicates that the programmer is too lazy to make a
>>>> working "make install").
>>>
>>> You appear to be supremely confident that your own personal usage of
>>> Linux, and your own (somewhat lacking and biased) view of OS history, is
>>> /the/ truth and /the/ right way to do things.
>>
>> Sure, comes from experience, not just with Linux, but also with other
>> Unices for about 29 years.  If you want to counter my point, you could
>> try explaining the benefits of /opt instead of making an ad-hominem
>> attack.
>>
>
>Just a point here - if my post was an "ad-hominem attack" (which I don't 
>think it was, and it was not intended to be), then so was your 
>characterisation of /opt users as "lazy" and "nonsense".  So let us move 
>past that.

/opt users are victims of their software providers.  Concerning the
characterization of the programmers, I stand by that; ok, it could
also be incompetence.  If a programmer does not provide a "make
install" or at least an install script that installs the binaries or
links to the binaries in a directory that is in the usual path of
users (such as /usr/local/bin), but instead says in the README that
the sysadmin should create such links manually, or that the users
should put the /opt/.../bin directory in the PATH, no friendly
characterization comes to my mind.

>In the beginning of unix, /usr was the place for site-specific or 
>user-chosen software.  Gradually, due to the way disks and filesystems 
>were often mounted, more and more of the standard or base files ended up 
>in /usr.  People put their own software in /usr/local.  Then people 
>started looking for a place to put software that would not interfere 
>with system software (i.e., distro-provided software for Linux, in /usr) 
>or software chosen, compiled and installed by users (in /usr/local). 
>/opt became common as a distro-independant place to put things.
>
>So on my systems, I have software from the likes of Atmel and Freescale 
>in /opt.  This is software that came pre-compiled, and could have 
>paid-for licences.  The tools are not on my path - nor should they be, 
>as the compilers are specified explicitly in Makefiles as needed.  If I 
>want a short-cut for starting an IDE, I put a symbolic link in ~/bin (or 
>sometimes a bash wrapper).

So the example you gave of using "gforth" to call
"/opt/swserver/Forth/GForth/V5/patch1/bin/gforth" would not even work
for your setup.

>Is it a perfect system?  No, there is no such thing.  But it works 
>simply, easily and conveniently, and makes it very simple for me to 
>distinguish between distro software and third-party software, and makes 
>it simple for upgrading or moving to a new system.

I see no advantage over using /usr/local.

Upgrading: Get the new version of the software, do "make install".
Ideally the software installs itself with version numbers, so you can
also call old versions.

Moving to a new system: Just copy /usr/local to the new system (or
somesuch; you could also install the new system on a new partition,
and mount the /usr/local there).

- anton
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Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 21:08 -0400
  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad sbattazzo@gmail.com - 2015-04-13 16:18 -0700
    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad sbattazzo@gmail.com - 2015-04-13 16:25 -0700
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        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 21:45 -0400
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 21:47 -0400
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad sbattazzo@gmail.com - 2015-04-14 07:33 -0700
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-14 14:38 -0400
    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 14:24 -0700
      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-16 15:11 -0700
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 23:37 -0400
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-16 20:59 -0700
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-04-17 13:16 +0000
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 00:19 -0400
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-16 21:56 -0700
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 14:47 -0400
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                Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 10:00 +0200
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                Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-18 15:15 +0000
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                Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-19 22:09 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-17 21:15 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 17:02 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-18 17:06 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 16:57 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 09:33 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-20 18:03 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 01:16 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:20 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:24 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:40 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:57 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-04-18 02:14 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 02:05 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 10:16 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 09:56 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 17:46 +0200
                USB serial ports, was: Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2015-04-18 18:34 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 10:04 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Jan Coombs <Jan-54 <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com>> - 2015-04-18 09:38 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 11:04 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 17:54 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad hal-usenet@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) - 2015-04-18 15:36 -0500
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-04-23 07:59 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 14:35 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 15:44 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-08 12:00 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 03:36 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-10 10:32 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-05-10 12:56 +0300
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 10:48 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-10 16:05 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2015-05-10 23:26 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2015-05-10 09:37 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 11:16 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2015-05-10 23:42 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 02:17 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-10 11:41 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-10 16:56 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 13:01 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad lasselangwadtchristensen@gmail.com - 2015-04-18 12:13 -0700
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-18 19:22 +0000
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 17:04 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-04-20 13:24 +0300
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:23 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-22 20:44 +0300
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:51 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@math.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-04-22 19:10 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 15:31 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@math.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-04-23 02:08 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@math.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-04-24 02:52 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 14:40 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 15:42 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad sbattazzo@gmail.com - 2015-04-21 09:34 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 14:57 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 15:35 -0400
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-17 10:52 +0000
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-17 14:05 +0300
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 07:56 -0700
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-17 17:26 +0200
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-17 17:01 +0000
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Blajrs Jrolrsen <boegre@no.com> - 2015-04-17 13:36 +0000
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-17 14:42 +0000
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-04-18 00:25 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:03 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:14 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:26 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:32 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:47 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-18 08:47 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 11:19 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-18 15:52 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 17:07 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-09 03:04 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-18 00:11 -0500
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 10:32 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 11:26 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 17:57 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-18 09:42 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 17:11 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-04-18 12:19 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-18 15:16 +0300
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 19:57 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-18 23:11 +0300
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-19 21:32 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-19 23:04 +0300
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-18 09:15 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 12:17 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-18 13:08 +0000
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 20:17 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-20 15:33 +0000
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 14:52 -0400
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-17 20:06 +0000
      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad lasselangwadtchristensen@gmail.com - 2015-04-16 16:18 -0700

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