Re: Slashcott enters second week ?

From	RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Slashcott enters second week ?
Date	2014-03-03 13:19 +0000
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On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:38:01 -0500
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> Why should I suddenly see a message in some newsgroup I've read for twenty 
> years that's actually coming from here, via crossposting?  I don't care 
> about "community" here, I care about that other newsgroup being viable 
> by having participants.  Crossposting may cause traffic, but it 
> doesn't generally cause people to move to the other newsgroup. It's tit 
> for tat, if you are hyping "community" here, then don't violate 
> 'community" there.   What value can you bring that actually requires 
> crossposting?  I can see it workig in favor of this newsgroup, bring in 
> traffic, bring in more participants via the crossposting, but why can't it 
> be the other way, you come and participate where the discussion actually 
> is?

To my surprise, I'm with Michael on this one.  The comp.emacs group for
example - there is a sort of regular crew over there, and the
discussions take a certain format.  Suddenly, some bozo like me posts a
"ten reasons I love emacs" post to comp.misc and crossposts it to
comp.emacs.  That's not probably going to be appreciated over there,
since they're usually discussing more technical things on that list and
aren't going to get excited about ten reasons I love emacs.

On the other hand, some interesting, tech article pops up about some
subject that would be interesting to the folks at comp.emacs.  OK, I
crosspost it to comp.misc and comp.emacs and the comp.misc folks
benefit from the info provided by the users of comp.emacs, and the
comp.emacs people hopefully benefit too.

The point is crossposting has to be done carefully, and I think that's
reasonable, and certainly the way I'd approach it.  It's not about
poaching other Usenetters to come chat over here; it's about getting
the right people involved so the discussion remains high quality.

On the other hand, Michael, for what it's worth, I think you're
over-estimating the sense of this "community" considering itself some
insular and inviolable club.  I think we're mostly just glad to have
found a bunch of other people who all prefer Usenet as a forum and a
justification to return to it after a hiatus elsewhere.  Stick around
and you'll see these same names starting to participate on other
groups too, as seems to be your preference.  

In the short term, this makes a convenient landing pad for
people returning for the first time - a group with a good signal/noise
ratio.  Imagine some oldie who hasn't touched Usenet in a while decides
to come back and lands at alt.24hourhelpdesk or equivalent?  It's a
cesspool of name calling and circle jerking.  Oldie shuts down SLRN and
decides Usenet is lost.  There's benefit in the folks now enjoying
comp.misc after all, and Usenetters everywhere stand to benefit from
this burst of interest and participation.

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Slashcott enters second week (?!) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-16 20:59 +0000
  Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-16 15:57 -0800
    Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-17 09:21 +0100
    Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-17 09:36 +0000
      Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-17 05:01 +0501
        Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-17 13:35 +0000
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-17 12:26 +1226
        Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-17 18:16 +0100
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? invis <invis@invis.net> - 2014-02-17 17:30 +0000
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? cykros@devio.us - 2014-02-17 22:50 +0000
      Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-17 09:45 -0800
        Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) RS Wood <rswood@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-17 19:54 +0000
  Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-17 00:00 -0800
  Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-17 10:06 -0500
    Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-17 16:22 +0000
      Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) wjwlsn <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-17 16:28 +0000
        Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) cykros@devio.us - 2014-02-17 23:02 +0000
        Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-18 00:34 +0100
          Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) Johannes Grassler <jgr-usenet@btw23.de> - 2014-02-18 23:45 +0000
      Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-17 17:43 +0000
        Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-18 01:55 +0200
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-18 07:37 +0100
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? dialmove <dialmove@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 13:07 +0000
              Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? dialmove <dialmove@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 13:16 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-18 08:02 +0802
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-18 22:51 +0100
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-19 01:56 +0156
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-18 19:47 -0800
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-19 08:58 +0200
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-19 01:36 +0136
        Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-18 00:08 +0000
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-18 07:12 +0000
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Koen Lefever <koen.lefever@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 05:41 -0800
              Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-18 20:24 +0000
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-02-21 17:16 +0000
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 12:33 -0500
              Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-26 18:31 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-26 21:07 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "Andy K." <andy.k466@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 17:52 +0100
                Posting to other tech groups, flag to comp.misc RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-02 19:56 +0000
                Re: Posting to other tech groups, flag to comp.misc Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2014-03-02 14:15 -0600
                Re: Posting to other tech groups, flag to comp.misc Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 23:47 +0000
                Re: Posting to other tech groups, flag to comp.misc Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2014-03-02 20:46 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-03-02 23:24 -0500
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-19 01:47 +0147
        Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 12:31 -0500
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-26 14:07 -0600
          Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-26 14:30 -0600
            Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-03-02 23:38 -0500
              Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 00:54 -0600
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-03 07:31 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-03 09:46 +0200
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-03 08:02 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-03-03 07:55 -0600
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2014-03-03 14:22 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:31 +0100
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 17:13 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-03 19:55 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-03 22:05 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Bjoern Hoehrmann <bjoern@hoehrmann.de> - 2014-03-04 14:06 +0100
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? "wjwlsn" <ibillwilson@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 09:43 -0600
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2014-03-03 21:11 +0000
              Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-03 13:19 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-03 13:55 +0000
                Re: Slashcott enters second week  ? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-03-03 14:21 +0000
      Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) "Elizabeth T. Knuth" <eknuth@csbsju.edu> - 2014-02-22 13:57 -0600
      Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-22 20:12 +0000
  Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-20 10:15 +0000
    Re: Slashcott enters second week (?!) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-02-20 12:25 +0200

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