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Re: Change from Win 10 Pro to Win 11 Pro

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scbs29 <scbs29@fred.talktalk.net> wrote:

> I am seriously considering upgrading from Win 10 Pro to Win 11 Pro. I wish to use the WIndows Update to do this
> since some of the software installed on my pc is no longer available.
> I have used the PC Health Check and am told my pc does not meet Win 11 requirements
> only because I need to support Secure Boot. Since I use Win 10 my boot option is set to 
> Legacy. It seems to be a straightforward process to change to EUFI boot, but I gather that
> Win 11 may complain about certain software.
> Is there any way of finding out what, if any, software that I have installed may cause problems
> when upgrading? All software installed runs fine on Win 10, but does this mean that it will run on
> Win 11 ?

Hard to say without knowing what software you have, and having
experience with it.

For example, I have a streaming capture program that, for some reason,
is not as effective if Secure Boot is enabled.  It reverts to some
lesser capable method of capture.  I don't need Secure Boot at all, so
when I enabled Secure Boot, and the software told me it had to revert to
a lesser method because of Secure Boot, I disabled Secure Boot since it
was just an experiment.

https://jaksta.com/support/windows/kb/guide/user-guide-jaksta-media-recorder-for-windows-v6-24000084846

  Audio recording method
  Application: In the Application recording method, audio is directly 
  pulled out of running applications. ... Windows 8 users will need to 
  have Secure Boot disabled in their UEFI BIOS for this recording method 
  to work.

  DISABLING SECURE BOOT ON WINDOWS OR GREATER SYSTEMS
  The Application recording mode requires Secure Boot to be disabled on 
  Windows 8 systems. The benefit of the Applicationrecording mode is 
  that each audio source can be isolated, providing a clean recording. 
  You can still recording in Stereo Mixmode without disabling Secure 
  Boot, but then the recordings might overlap with other audio playing 
  on your computer, such as system sounds. You will need to be careful 
  to turn off system sounds and not have any other audio play during a 
  recording.

https://jaksta.com/support/windows/technical/jaksta-media-recorder/jaksta-media-recorder-2022-release-24000020502

  New Digital Audio Recording Method

  JMR 7 used the Application audio recording method by default.  This   
  uses a process called injection to attach to an application to capture 
  its audio. Many web browsers now reject dll injection.  Injection also 
  requires your computer to have secure boot switched off in your 
  computers BIOS.  

  The new Digital audio recording method is now selected by default.  It 
  doesn't have any of the cfg issues described above.  

  The Application method has been removed.
  
I did not know about this at first.  I had been using jaksta Media
Recorder for years, decided to play with Secure Boot, and got a message
on starting it that Secure Boot required a less capable capture method.
Since Secure Boot was nonessential to me, poof, it got disabled.

In my case, disabling Secure Boot failed during the process leaving the
motherboard unusable.  After a couple days of working with Asrock techs
where they couldn't resuscitate the mobo, they decided to do an exchange
(I pay for a replacement mobo, they send it, I send back the screwed
mobo, and they refund).

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/disabling-secure-boot?view=windows-11

Despite what the wizard told you, Secure Boot is *not* required to
install Windows 11.  Secure Boot capable is not the same as Secure Boot
required.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-and-secure-boot-a8ff1202-c0d9-42f5-940f-843abef64fad
"While the requirement to upgrade a Windows 10 device to Windows 11 is
only that the PC be Secure Boot capable by having UEFI/BIOS enabled, you
may also consider enabling or turning Secure Boot on for better
security."

Windows 11 System Requirements
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-system-requirements-86c11283-ea52-4782-9efd-7674389a7ba3
System Firmware
UEFI (for Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, a modern version of the
PC BIOS) and Secure Boot capable. 
                         ^^^^^^^
                         
Just what mandates you MUST upgrade from 10 to 11?  What hardware or
software do you have, er, want to have that requires 11?

While the expectation was Windows 12 was coming out this coming October
(when Windows 10 support ends), Microsoft said they will instead rollout
a feature update, and Windows 12 comes out later (no announcement date).
Just because a product is no longer supported does not make it
self-destruct to become unusable.  I have a 23-year old car that is
obviously way out of warranty, but it is still very much usable.

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