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Re: No Apple Cars afterall ...

Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date	2016-10-18 11:39 -0700
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Subject	Re: No Apple Cars afterall ...
From	Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>

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On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-6, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> On 18/10/2016 13:58, deplorable owl wrote:
> > Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> >> On 17/10/2016 21:32, deplorable owl wrote:
> >>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 17/10/2016 18:43, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 1:04:46 PM UTC-4, ronb wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>  "concept of 
> >>>>>> self-driving cars" 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The self-driving car is one of the most idiotic ideas to emerge
> >>>>> anywhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is no way that I would ever allow myself to be transported
> >>>>> by such a self-driving vehicle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My approach to driving is simple.  I never allow my car, and with
> >>>>> it my body, to move into an area where my eyes haven't already been
> >>>>> 10 seconds previously.  This is known as "anticipatory" or "defensive"
> >>>>> driving, and a self-driving vehicle could not ever accomplish the same.
> >>>>
> >>>> All round radar, distance sensors have a far better idea of what's going
> >>>> on than your feeble brain could take in. Have you never driven an E
> >>>> Class Mercedes with DISTRONIC? Oh silly me, you are a Linux user, you
> >>>> can probably only afford a bike.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Especially in moderate to heavy traffic, a self-driving car could
> >>>>> not scan the road thousands or even hundreds of feet ahead.  As a
> >>>>> result a self-driving vehicle would be limited to impulsive accelerations
> >>>>> and very quick braking.  The short reaction times, in addition to 
> >>>>> causing excessive wear and tear, could be fatally dangerous.
> >>>>
> >>>> Except of course if there were more than one car in which case they
> >>>> could communicate and share traffic data.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But self-driving cars are another great techno-gimmick and that's
> >>>>> all that matters to the marketdroids that run most corporations.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Translation: They are rubbish because I'll never be able to afford to
> >>>> own one.
> >>>>
> >>>> Self driving cars are the future. They are already being trialled in a
> >>>> city near me, I'm looking forward to trying one.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> It is not the future in the US, because the people will not allow it.
> >>> It will be child's play for any politician to campaign against such
> >>> lunacy, and the end result will be that no state in the US will permit
> >>> driverless cars.
> >>
> >> The US is already turning into a backward, bigoted and insular country.

Compared to whom?

> > What does that fantasy have to do with driverless cars?
> > 
> > 
> >> If Trump gets in (God forbid), it will just get worse.
> >>
> > 
> > When Trump gets in.
> > 
> >>
> >>> Now the military will of course have this tech, because it makes sense
> >>> to have supply vehicles that don't expose humans to IED dangers, as well
> >>> as drone tanks, robot soldiers, etc.  And that is the whole point of
> >>> this type of research.
> >>
> >> They already have much of this tech fool. The battlefield and the
> >> highway are entirely different.
> >>
> > 
> > Battlefields make use of highways, moron.  War takes place in the real
> > world, not some fold-out game board.  There will never be driverless
> > cars on American highways.  Maybe over there on Loon Island you tards
> > will have them.  You already drive on the wrong side of the road after
> > all. 
> > 
> 
> ROFL! Clearly you have never seen a war zone outside of the cinema.

Crack sale in the hood again? You're actually arguing that war zones don't make use of existing highways? Fact: Some are even built with that in mind:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_strip>

Thread

No Apple Cars afterall ... ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:04 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 17:33 +0000
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-17 17:56 +0000
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 18:46 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-17 10:43 -0700
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-17 21:17 +0100
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 20:32 +0000
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-17 17:22 -0600
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 09:53 +0100
          Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 12:58 +0000
            Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:29 +0100
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 14:54 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:02 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:10 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:20 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:34 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:40 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:54 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:41 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:52 +0100
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:39 -0700
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:08 -0600
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:53 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-19 14:04 -0600
            Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 11:58 -0400
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 17:32 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:30 -0600
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-10-21 02:31 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:49 -0600
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-28 09:58 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-28 15:24 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-29 09:19 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-29 16:04 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-29 16:40 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-29 16:57 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:44 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-29 17:09 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-29 13:27 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:45 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 07:08 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 14:18 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 12:49 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:47 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 09:16 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-31 05:38 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 10:41 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 12:30 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 11:42 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 21:49 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 08:51 -0500
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 11:56 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-29 16:27 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:48 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 09:51 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 14:22 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 10:28 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 09:14 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-29 22:15 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:49 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-28 15:37 +0000
          Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:07 -0600
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-18 14:12 +0000
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 09:16 -0500
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:30 +0100
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 16:49 +0200
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 06:59 -0500
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-18 08:00 -0400
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 13:00 -0400
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 20:30 +0200
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:45 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 09:44 -0700

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