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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, alt.sci.philosophy |
| Subject | Re: where can we find such people |
| Followup-To | alt.1d |
| Date | 2015-10-25 12:12 +0100 |
| Organization | PointedEars Software (PES) |
| Message-ID | <1937854.hWKDz1mm3H@PointedEars.de> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <slrnn1o1mc.3bt.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> <2977606.CyFfJNf6Zz@PointedEars.de> <slrnn1ustj.bis.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> <1564724.o8QESe2AXR@PointedEars.de> <slrnn2ndt8.pd7.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Followups directed to: alt.1d
Ned Latham wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> I have found that out while doing research on Geoffrey Marcy: > > You're wrong again, Pointy head. That statement should be in the > simple past tense, not the present perfect tense. Wrong again. “The Present Perfect is […] also used when an activity has an effect on the present moment.” See <http://www.englishtenses.com/tenses/present_perfect> etc. >> This usage is confirmed by dictionaries: >> >> <http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ >> beg?q=begging+the+question#beg__15> > > *sigh* Sad, isn't it? Ostensibly respectable publications pandering > to fads in gibberish. It is not a fad: <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=begs+the+question+why%2C+begs+the+question+how&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cbegs%20the%20question%20why%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cbegs%20the%20question%20how%3B%2Cc0> See also: <http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2290> >> If there is any shred of decency left in you, your reply to this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> posting will be along the lines of "Sorry, I stand corrected". > > That would be a lie. Unlike you, I don't do lies. [Proper English would be “I do not lie” or “I don’t lie”. So much for your understanding of the English language.] You replied to my posting in <news:slrnn1lttg.57e.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>: > > That begs the question > > *Raises* the question. > > Begging the question is a logical fallacy in which the conclusion > is assumed in the premise. IOW, you denied that my use of the expression would be a correct one. (That was a “false dilemma” fallacy of yours, denying the possibility that there could be several interpretations.) And then you replied to my posting in <news:slrnn2ndt8.pd7.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz>: > > While "begging the question" is the name of a logical fallacy, > > it also is a phrase that means to "raise a point that has not > > been dealt with", which is precisely how I used it. > > I know all that, Pointy Head. […] IOW, you *knew* that you were wrong at the time when you were claiming this. Claiming something that one knows is wrong constitutes a lie. You lied again when you said that you “don’t do lies” because in the very same paragraph you effectively said that you knew you were wrong. And you lied again when you said that I had lied. Because I could not have lied about the same subject that you knew were wrong about while claiming I was wrong. So *evidentially*, you *do* lie. Again and again. It has been established by now, at the latest, that you are a habitual liar. Also, you continue to crosspost without Followup-To despite Followup-To being set to the appropriate newsgroup, and you continue to throw insults. By that we have established that there really is not a shred of decency left in you, because decent people do not lie habitually, and they at least try to observe technical and social standards, which includes that they do not throw insults habitually. So Q.E.D. And *PLONK* (F'up2 set appropriately, which I assume you will ignore again). PointedEars -- Q: What happens when electrons lose their energy? A: They get Bohr'ed. (from: WolframAlpha)
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where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-28 06:18 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-28 09:52 -0500
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-28 23:25 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-29 07:04 -0500
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-29 06:06 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-29 10:34 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-29 19:40 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-30 08:39 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-30 21:43 +0200
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:15 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-29 20:57 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-28 12:18 -0500
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-28 23:16 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 14:47 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 14:50 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-28 23:24 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:21 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-29 20:59 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-29 07:20 -0500
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:34 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-29 20:59 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-30 09:00 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-30 08:32 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-30 21:46 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-30 13:26 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-30 23:04 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 14:48 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-12 00:37 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-11 18:58 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-12 18:39 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-12 14:15 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-12 12:56 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-15 04:19 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 04:31 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-15 17:32 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 18:31 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-16 06:41 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-16 04:48 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-12 23:18 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-15 03:58 -0500
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-15 02:33 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-15 17:22 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-16 20:24 +0200
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 13:01 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-16 22:12 +0200
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 15:32 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 19:42 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-17 10:01 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-17 09:58 +0200
Re: where can we find such people John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-25 17:36 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-25 18:34 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-25 18:44 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-14 02:31 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-15 04:36 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-23 20:16 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-24 11:54 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-25 12:12 +0100
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-25 16:31 -0500
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 15:27 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-10-27 14:03 -0500
Re: where can we find such people John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 10:35 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 15:11 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:06 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:15 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 18:19 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-12 22:34 -0500
Re: where can we find such people John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 22:18 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 22:21 -0700
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Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-13 09:01 -0700
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Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-13 10:49 -0700
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Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-13 14:12 -0700
Re: where can we find such people shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-10-14 00:22 +0000
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-13 20:00 -0700
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Re: where can we find such people kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-14 07:05 -0400
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 04:18 -0700
Re: where can we find such people kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-14 07:47 -0400
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 05:54 -0700
Re: where can we find such people kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-10-14 15:19 -0400
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-14 22:12 +0200
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Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 23:18 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 10:39 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-14 20:08 +0200
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 11:16 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-14 21:11 +0200
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:17 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-14 22:03 +0200
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 14:11 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 23:14 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:44 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:18 -0500
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-15 23:36 -0700
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Re: where can we find such people Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 14:56 -0500
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 23:15 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:45 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:32 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-15 22:32 +0200
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 14:35 -0700
Re: where can we find such people shuba <tim@sh.uba> - 2015-10-16 00:10 +0000
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-15 23:52 -0700
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 23:56 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-16 00:03 -0700
Re: where can we find such people paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 04:19 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-16 05:01 -0700
Re: where can we find such people paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 05:42 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-16 05:47 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 18:17 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 04:10 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 18:21 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 06:15 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 09:14 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 07:53 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-14 13:05 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 14:57 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-14 22:35 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:00 -0700
Re: where can we find such people mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-15 06:15 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-15 14:43 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 20:19 +0000
Re: where can we find such people Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-15 22:37 +0200
Re: where can we find such people Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-14 23:30 +0000
Re: where can we find such people JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 17:04 -0700
Re: where can we find such people Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-14 22:41 -0500
Re: where can we find such people Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 16:31 +0000
Re: where can we find such people Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 14:54 -0500
Re: where can we find such people John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 15:35 -0700
Re: where can we find such people John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 17:53 -0700
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