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Re: Electric field

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Electric field
Date 2016-07-25 18:43 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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mapou001@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:43:08 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:
>> Michael J.  Strickland wrote:
>> > That field around the stationary charge "caused by photons" propagates
>> > at v = c (as do photons).
>> 
>> Nonsense.  By *definition*, an electro*static*, or put more simply,
>> electric, field does _not_ propagate; it is just there, it is *static*.
>> What *does* propagate are *changes* in that field, and *they* propagate
>> at the same speed that light propagates in the medium that the electric
>> field is permeating (short: at the speed of light), which for all media
>> other than vacuum is *slower* than c, and *only for vacuum* is c.
> 
> The fact is that changes in the electrostatic field do not propagate at c
> even if the so-called "virtual" photons do.

As for vacuum, you are wrong.  As for other media, the propagation speed of 
changes is less than c, but equal to the speed of light in that medium.

> Experiments have shown that particles react to where a moving
> electrostatic charge actually is as opposed to where it was if the changes
> in the field propagated at c.

Cite evidence.

> How is that possible?

Maybe errors in experiment setup or in measurements.  It happens to the best 
of us (recently, professional scientists in Italy claimed to have found a 
particle that moves faster than c; it turned out that the experiment setup 
was not completely OK, which modified the measurements).

> It's because the field is nonlocal.

Do you even know what that term means?

> The charged particle and its emitted photons continually maintain a
> perfectly symmetrical (spherical) electrostatic field regardless of the
> movement of the source

No.

> or how far the photons are from the source.
> A nonspherical field would break a symmetry conservation principle and
> result in a lopsided or imbalanced universe.

Not even wrong.

> Of course, gutless and lying relativists […]

This is where I stop reading.  Get well soon.

> ahahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha...

“hanson”, yes?

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