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Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine.

From	Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine.
Date	2016-03-25 21:45 +0100
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HGW wrote:

> One minute mass constitutes a solid object that is acted on by gravity
> and is hard to stop if moving. Next minute it changes into pure
> radiation that will pass through most massive objects. What is the
> physical explanation?

The explanation is that you have the misconception that “mass constitutes a
solid object”. Instead, mass is *a* property of an object, solid or not.
Energy is another. So is momentum. For example, in quantum mechanics,
virtual bosons have mass – they are anything but solid objects, they are not
even observables.

What the layman (and sometimes even the expert) calls a “massive object” is,
as experimentor during the last two centuries have discovered, actually made
up of constituents held together by fundamental interactions (also,
“forces”):

“Solid objects” usually are built from molecules or crystals; molecules and
crystals consist of atoms that are held together by electron pair-binding,
for example; an atom consists of electrons and a nucleus that are held
together by the electromagnetic interaction; a nucleus consists of protons
and neutrons that are held together by the residual strong interaction; a
proton and a neutron, respectively, consist of three quarks that are held
together by the strong interaction. Whether quarks and other *now* point-
like particles have constituents or are merely results of vibrating, multi-
dimensional strings is still being discussed.

In any case, when you consider that we now know that 98.7 % to 99 % of the
mass of protons and neutrons, which make up most of the mass of baryonic
matter in this universe (you, me, everything that you can see), does _not_
come from their constituent quarks [1], but from the space between the
quarks, from the *energy* of *empty space* [2], and that atoms are mostly
empty as well¹, it should not be at all surprising that matter “can change
into pure radiation”. And it should not be surprising that where there is
so much empty space, radiation can “pass through most massive objects”.

[1]
<http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?dataset=&i=1+-+(down+quark+mass+%2B+2+*+up+quark+mass)%2F(proton+mass)>

[2] <https://youtu.be/sbsGYRArH_w?t=2277>

PointedEars
___________
¹ A common description is that if a (European) football stadium had the
size of an atom, then a cherry stone at the center point had the size
and location of that atom’s nucleus.
--
Q: What did the nuclear physicist order for lunch?
A: Fission chips.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-19 09:30 +1100
  Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 16:09 -0700
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-19 00:23 +0100
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  Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-18 17:23 -0700
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-20 03:43 +1100
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-20 12:11 -0500
      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-21 06:46 +1100
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      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 11:56 -0700
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          Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-19 22:42 +0100
            Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. cryptoclearance <cryptoclearance@cryptoclearance.net> - 2016-03-19 22:10 +0000
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          Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 17:27 -0700
            Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-21 12:13 +1100
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 20:48 -0700
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-22 21:09 +0100
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-22 23:19 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-23 09:46 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-23 09:43 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-23 19:11 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 13:15 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-23 20:08 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 14:19 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 09:34 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-24 02:05 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 13:11 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-24 20:54 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-25 09:09 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-24 23:54 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-25 22:38 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-25 13:59 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-25 21:45 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-26 14:33 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-26 05:00 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-03-26 15:18 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Bojana Kudryavtseva <bojkud@rtyn56h67i.org> - 2016-03-26 10:18 +0000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-26 14:30 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-26 15:53 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-27 20:48 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-03-27 10:08 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 09:48 -0500
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      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-22 12:35 +1100
        Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 07:22 -0500
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