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Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation

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Fritz Lasinger wrote:

> On 27.04.2016 02:12, John Heath wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 5:13:33 PM UTC-4, Fritz Lasinger wrote:
>>> An observer is moving with the same speed as mass m1. The mass m2 shall
>>> have the distance x to the mass m1 and moves away from it with the speed
>>> v. The observer sees the graviton, moving toward the mass m2 with the
>>> relative momentum P = mG·(c−v).

No, he does not.

> I'm only a mechanical engineer, so from my point of view the gravitons
> have the following properties:

(1) 
> - They have negative mass

(2)
> - We probably cannot measure them, because the absolute value of the
> average mass is about 0.5E80 times smaller than the positive particle
> masses they belong to.

A theory that is not falsifiable is not a theory at all.

> (According to the number of particles in the
> universe, because there are about 10E80 particles with positiv mass and
> hence (10E80+1)*(10E80-2)/2≈0.5E160 gravitons with negativ mass and the
> particle ratio neg./pos. masses ist 0.5E160/10E80≈0.5E80 when the whole
> mass of the universe is about 0.)

The total mass of the universe cannot be “about 0”; it would have ended in a 
Big Rip already (without ever producing the conditions necessary for the 
person making this up to come into existence) because according to the 
standard model of cosmology, confirmed by observation several times (at the 
latest, by the Planck Collaboration in 2015), ca. 71 % of the mass-energy of 
the universe comes from dark energy.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda-CDM_model>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy>

(3)
> - they move with speed of light

Inconsistent with proposition (1).  Particles with non-zero mass cannot move 
at the speed of light according to SR which you assume to be correct.  Put 
simply, an infinite amount of energy would be required for acceleration (see 
my other follow-up).

(4)
> - they interact with positive masses with fully elastic impacts
> 
> I hope, this is enough for you :-)

It is.


PointedEars
-- 
Heisenberg is out for a drive when he's stopped by a traffic cop. 
The officer asks him "Do you know how fast you were going?" 
Heisenberg replies "No, but I know where I am."
(from: WolframAlpha)

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A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-23 23:13 +0200
  Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-24 10:57 +0200
    Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-24 18:07 +0200
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 05:11 +0200
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 09:42 +0200
  A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:48 -0700
    A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:53 -0700
      A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-24 09:59 -0700
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 11:07 -0700
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-26 20:52 +0200
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 12:15 -0700
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 15:49 -0700
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:07 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 00:37 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:33 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 07:55 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 08:11 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 08:35 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 08:48 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:07 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-27 13:09 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 07:27 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-28 08:11 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 13:37 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:27 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:01 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-28 22:08 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:18 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:38 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:50 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 09:10 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 09:30 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-30 09:03 -0700
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 15:37 -0700
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-26 16:00 -0700
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 10:45 +0200
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 10:57 -0700
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 20:13 +0200
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 11:07 -0700
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 20:14 +0200
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 11:47 -0700
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:46 +0200
                Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:32 -0700
  Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 17:12 -0700
    Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 21:15 -0700
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 21:32 -0700
    Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-29 19:42 +0200
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 05:50 +0200
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-30 17:01 +0200
          Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 18:13 +0200
            Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-30 18:44 +0200
              Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-01 04:12 +0200
      Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Fritz Lasinger <las8@web.de> - 2016-04-30 17:31 +0200
        Re: A new Momentum Theory for the Gravitation Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-30 18:37 +0200

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