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Re: Apple Watch

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Apple Watch
Date 2015-04-14 22:36 -0400
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In article <mgkd45$69q$1@news.albasani.net>, AV3
<arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >>>>> do you really think they're intentionally delaying the gold edition?
> >>>>
> >>>> No, but I thought they would have highest priority for delivery.
> >>>
> >>> What evidence can you provide that shows they don't?
> >>
> >> That I got an earlier delivery date (the second half of May) than gold
> >> watch buyers. That says to me that orders are being filled more on the
> >> basis of first come/first served. That pleases me. It surprises me that
> >> big spenders are not coddled in the way I expected.
> >
> > of course orders are filled first come/first serve.
> >
> > why would anyone do anything else??
> 
> You're not consistent. You argued that airlines are performing a service 
> to customers by charging graduated fees for seat selection service that 
> was previously first come/first serve and without a fee. I favor first 
> come/first serve for both airline and Apple services. But I was prepared 
> to see the enormous price differential as an entitlement to early 
> service on a few dozen gold-encased watches.

not a good comparison, and the price of the gold watch is in line with
other gold watches.

airline seat selection is first come/first serve. if you want 12a and
someone else picks it before you do, you must choose another seat, no
matter how much money you want to pay.

some seats are blocked off for elite customers, such as ones towards
the front or the exit row because those pax fly a lot and the airline
caters to them, versus the kettles who fly once a year, if that much.

of course, you can always pay a premium for business or first class,
but you get a better product. it's the equivalent of a gold watch. 

regardless of seat, you still get to the destination at the same time
everyone else does.

> > if you ordered a gold watch at 12:01a on friday, you might have had a
> > 4/24 ship date. 5-10 minutes later, shipping times for *all* versions
> > slipped into may or later.
> 
> That suggests a considerable underestimate of demand. 

it's much better than an overestimate of demand.

also keep in mind that the factories can only produce a certain amount
no matter what their estimates are. they are no doubt making as many as
they can.

the iphone 6/6+ was supply constrained until december/january or so.

> It probably takes 
> goldsmiths that much time to make at least several hundred more cases. I 
> ordered the same watch as Michelle just after midnight EDT online, while 
> she ordered hers in an Arizona store, presumably several hours later, 
> but we both ended up in the same delivery promise time, suggesting that 
> demand for that watch was relatively low and stretched out through that 
> ordering period.

it isn't low demand.

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Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-10 21:05 -0400
  Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-10 19:04 -0700
  Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-10 22:35 -0700
    Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-11 10:45 -0400
      Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-11 15:58 -0400
          Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-11 16:53 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-11 22:22 +0000
            Re: Apple Watch Jim_Higgins <gordian240@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-11 20:05 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 20:28 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-12 11:08 -0400
              Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-14 20:58 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-14 18:00 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:14 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 08:24 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-14 22:36 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:29 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 11:42 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:56 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 12:02 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 09:44 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 17:14 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:10 +1000
                Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-14 21:13 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:20 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:52 +0000
                Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:42 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 11:49 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 15:56 +0000
                Re: Apple Watch Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-15 22:45 +0000
    Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
      Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-11 21:36 -0700
  Re: Apple Watch Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:22 +0000
  Re: Apple Watch Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-11 14:16 +0000
  Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 19:23 -0400
    Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 00:22 +0000
      Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-12 11:24 -0400
    Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 20:28 -0400
    Re: Apple Watch Zar Zifodow <zarzifodow@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-11 19:25 -0700
      Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 07:38 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-12 09:48 -0400
        Re: Apple Watch me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-12 23:13 +0000
          Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 19:30 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-12 16:48 -0700
              Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 08:27 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 05:35 -0700
            Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-13 09:55 +1000
              Re: Apple Watch Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-13 07:39 -0400
            Re: Apple Watch me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-13 04:52 +0000
              Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-13 15:52 +1000
                Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 08:36 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-13 18:10 +0100
                Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-13 09:59 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 07:52 +1000
                Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 18:49 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 10:25 +1000
                Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 18:09 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 13:01 +1000
                Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 20:43 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 18:34 +1000
                Re: Apple Watch Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-14 09:52 -0400
                Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 16:32 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 17:46 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 20:10 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 20:28 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 20:49 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 21:09 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-16 07:08 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-16 08:26 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-16 09:16 -0700
                Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 16:22 -0700
          Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-12 16:47 -0700

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