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Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi?

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android, alt.internet.wireless
Subject Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi?
Date 2015-07-13 16:00 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <130720151600485726%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <mnv8lu$gpv$2@news.albasani.net> <r2c6qahfdnknq0hjcc2skqad89348d4far@4ax.com> <mo0jkc$vtn$4@news.albasani.net> <d0i6kqFmajjU5@mid.individual.net> <mo14j8$tob$2@news.albasani.net>

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In article <mo14j8$tob$2@news.albasani.net>, D. F. Manno
<dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:

> > Are you worried about router security updates? If so, Apple's routers
> > typically get updated automatically and far more frequently (and for a
> > longer time in their life span as well) than most third-party
> > Linux-based routers.
> 
> While I have updated the firmware on my routers over the years, it's not 
> something I consciously think about day to day. I doubt the kids are 
> doing anything so worrisome that they need to be extra cautious, so, no, 
> to answer your question, I'm not much worried about the router updates.

anything accessible from the outside is vulnerable.

note that apple isn't listed:
<http://www.routerpwn.com>

> Apple works a lot off of FUD, by making their customers *feel* secure, 
> which is a great thing, and it's a service to their customers, but, in 
> the end, nothing is even close to secure from a state-sponsored adversary.

apple does not work off fud.

while nothing is impossible, it's a *lot* harder to compromise an apple
router than a generic off the shelf router, particularly when the user
doesn't update anything, which they don't normally do because they more
than likely have no idea there even is an update for their router. 

many people don't know what the admin password for their router is
because it was set up by the cable/dsl installer, which means they
can't update anything even if they wanted to.

> Plus, I'm wary of backdoors purposefully left open by the manufacturers 
> of all routers.

then you ought to not buy a generic router.

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Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-07-11 23:58 -0400
  Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-12 04:22 +0000
    Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-12 15:51 +0000
      Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-12 09:09 -0700
        Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-12 16:37 +0000
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-12 10:14 -0700
            Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 11:51 -0700
            Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-13 00:03 +0000
        Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-12 11:52 -0700
        Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-12 21:37 +0000
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-12 18:07 -0400
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-07-12 15:09 -0700
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-12 15:50 -0700
            Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 21:19 -0700
            Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-17 18:16 -0500
        Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-07-13 02:02 +0000
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-07-13 01:30 -0400
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:57 +0000
            Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-13 08:16 -0700
              Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 15:51 +0000
              Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 15:55 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-13 09:57 -0700
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 19:46 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-13 14:17 -0700
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-07-14 10:53 +0100
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-17 18:46 -0500
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-18 09:03 -0700
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-17 18:48 -0500
            Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-13 16:17 +0000
              Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 19:46 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-13 16:00 -0400
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 20:32 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-13 21:21 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-13 17:28 -0400
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 23:06 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-13 19:28 -0400
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 23:09 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-13 19:28 -0400
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-14 00:45 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-14 02:48 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 23:12 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-14 00:05 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-14 00:14 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-14 00:28 +0000
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-13 19:16 -0700
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-17 18:42 -0500
                Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2015-07-17 18:05 -0700
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-13 16:13 +0000
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-13 16:15 +0000
            Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? "D. F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-07-13 20:23 +0000
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-07-17 18:19 -0500
      Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-07-12 12:46 -0400
        Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-07-12 16:57 +0000
          Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-07-12 13:20 -0400
    Re: What is a decent DOCSIS3.0 modem with WiFi? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-07-12 12:42 -0400

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