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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY |
| Date | 2026-10-25 22:30 -0400 |
| Organization | BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) |
| Message-ID | <11bmdve$nvr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> (permalink) |
| References | <11bjog6$1tp5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <oRKdnTLf6t3lkEP3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
Nick Charles wrote:
> Oh look. DipshIT is AGAIN jumping thru hoops to do something VERY simple.
>
> Use the fucking Files app on iOS you dumbass. Open the files app. Long
> press anywhere, select Paste. A new text file will be created with your
> pasted text from the clipboard. AGAIN using the files app, connect to
> your Windows computer over the Wi-Fi connection. You DO have a drive
> shared on your Windows computer, right? AGAIN using the Files app,
> copy/paste your text file to Windows.
>
> Done. God DAMN, you are stupid.
>
> How long DOES it take you to dream up these absurdly complicated ways to do
> easy things? All in your never ending, life-long goal of �Making Apple
> Look Bad�.
Hi Nick Charles,
THANK YOU for that wonderful idea, as the record shows I initially tried
Files but I hadn't realized that longpressing in empty space creates the
text.txt file containing whatever was copied into the iOS clipboard.
Given I have never, in all the decades of posting to Usenet, ever disagreed
with any logically defensible statement, I do very much agree with you.
Using Files works much better than using Notes did in my previous tests.
To confirm that you're correct, I did test this and it does work for most:
1. Long-paste in Files app to create text2.txt (this works)
2. Open Files app > connect to Windows PC via SMB
3. Copy the file to the Windows machine
Here is where it breaks down, for me, which I had stated in this thread.
My Win10 local security policy LimitBlankPasswordUse is enabled, which
restricts network logons using blank-password accounts, which makes sense.
My existing AndroidBackup share grants Everyone read access only, not write
access, but that can be changed. The problem is the password requirement.
So the Files-app paste suggestion works, as I verified. But the subsequent
SMB transfer is not a ready-to-use bidirectional solution due to the
default password requirement. Weakening that opens up too many holes.
LocalSend avoids that SMB password dependency on the user or guest account.
1. SMB authentication with a passwordless Windows account does not work
even when guest is allowed. Even with password-protected sharing
turned OFF on the Windows side, AFAIK, the Files app's SMB client
requires a username and password when adding a server.
2. No Apple software on the PC means no iCloud Drive, no Apple
Devices app, and no USB file-browsing path from PC to iPad.
The Files app on iOS cannot reach the PC via iCloud because
there is no iCloud on the Windows machine. The only default
network path from iPad Files to Windows is SMB, and as noted
above, SMBv2 auth without a Windows password won't work.
3. We explicitly do not want any Internet involvement. Hence
cloud-based workarounds (OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox)
are off the table. That eliminates the onlypath where iOS
and Windows interoperate without friction.
So your suggestion is appreciated as it eliminates need for Notes!
But something like the LocalSend method is required, unfortunately.
a. No accounts, no passwords, no cloud services
b. Transfers over Wi-Fi LAN only (nothing touches the Internet)
c. Works iPad <-> Windows with a simple tap-to-send flow
d. No SMBv2 configuration issues, no authentication dialogs,
and no dependency on Windows sharing settings
Never have I disagreed with any person who proposes logically defensible
solutions, so I do agree with you that the Files-app paste step is a real
improvement over the Notes workflow that I was able to get work yesterday.
But, unfortunately, the SMB step is still a friction point that makes
the Files + SMB path fail for a passwordless Windows machine with no Apple
software installed, and I'm not adding a password just to transfer files.
Luckily, LocalSend works on all platforms, stays local, and doesn't require
a password just to transfer a file from one machine on the LAN to another.
Although, I admit openly, sometimes it's flaky (due to firewall issues).
That is not "complicated" since it's simply the easiest way to do it.
Note: Since LocalSend uses a fixed, hardcoded default port (TCP and UDP
port 53317) across all platforms (Windows, iOS, Android, macOS, Linux), if
the Windows-to-iPad transfer fails with a connection error, we may need to
add firewall rules on the Windows PC to open it up for file transfer.
netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="LocalSend TCP"
dir=in action=allow protocol=TCP localport=53317
netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="LocalSend UDP"
dir=in action=allow protocol=UDP localport=53317
After that, the transfer should work bidirectionally over the Wi-Fi LAN
without any need for OEM accounts or the Internet or, gasp, the cloud.
In summary, thank you for your suggestion, which was helpful as I tried the
Files app but didn't realize the Files app can create a text file directly
from the clipboard, eliminating the need for Notes. I tested it, and I
openly, publicly, and sincerely acknowledge that improvement works on iOS.
Where we differ is the next step. SMBv2/v3 can support Guest access, but
making that work without credentials may require Windows security and
share-permission changes that I am not willing to make just to transfer a
text file. My existing share is read-only for Everyone, and my Windows
policy restricts network logons using blank-password accounts. I am not
claiming SMB without a password is universally impossible but I am saying
it is not a ready-to-use solution under my current setup constraints.
Luckily, LocalSend gives all platforms bidirectional file transfer over the
existing LAN without an SMB share, Windows file-sharing credentials, cloud
accounts, or an Internet transfer. While LocalSend can occasionally need
firewall troubleshooting, that is a manageable one-time setup trade-off.
So, thank you for the iOS Files-app shortcut, which improves the
file-creation step on iOS from the clipboard. One reason I was frustrated
is because on Android, the clipboard is shared between Windows and iOS so I
simply rightclick to copy on Android and rightclick to paste onto Windows
and vice versa. So the fact on Android the clipboard is shared was partly
why the iOS method seems like such a kludge.
If, on iOS, we could put a file into the iOS DCIM directory, that would
have worked to transfer files, at least for one direction, with Windows.
As we all know, on Android, Windows & the Android filesystem work
bidirectionally, but we're severely restricted when dealing with iOS.
Overall, while the Files+SMB method should work for most Windows:iOS users,
LocalSend remains my preferred transfer method because it meets my actual
requirements without changing my Windows security configuration.
Thank you very much for your helpful suggestions about iOS Files creating a
a text.txt file containing the clipboard contents when longpressing in
empty space (I was looking for a way to paste the clipboard INTO a file).
--
Android, Windows & Linux walk into a bar to discuss their differences.
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How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:11 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:23 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:49 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:35 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:46 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 20:59 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-25 17:24 +1300
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:29 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:41 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 01:28 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 07:57 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 21:00 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-25 14:08 +0000
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:30 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 09:18 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 06:51 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 14:18 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 09:36 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 10:34 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 21:22 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 19:36 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 12:50 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 13:25 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 14:05 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 15:24 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 21:33 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 18:48 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-27 18:11 +1300
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-27 14:39 +0000
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:12 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 22:53 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 11:15 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 20:13 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-26 13:47 +0000
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-26 23:00 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:02 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:32 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 15:57 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 21:01 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-28 22:19 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 23:00 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 03:01 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 14:14 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 11:57 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 12:03 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 11:24 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 21:05 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 16:31 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 21:20 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 18:45 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-27 18:34 +0000
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-27 12:01 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> - 2026-10-25 18:27 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 11:01 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 16:36 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 17:42 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2026-10-25 18:14 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:45 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 13:17 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 10:15 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:18 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 17:02 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 23:09 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-27 23:53 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:27 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:31 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 08:18 +0000
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:37 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 13:54 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 00:33 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 22:24 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-30 00:27 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-30 06:46 -0700
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-27 10:41 -0400
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:21 +0100
Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-30 12:00 +1100
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