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Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms?

From Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms?
Date 2026-10-05 10:17 +1100
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On 04/10/26 21:56, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> On 10/4/2026 5:56 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 04/10/26 18:54, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>>> Den 04.10.2026 kl. 04.41 skrev Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson:
>>>
>>>> So, what do posters of alt.usage.english suggest?
>>>
>>> Read books by English writers.
>>
>> And be suspicious of what you read on the web.
>
> And books.  Though I don't have a read made example of an error in a
> book with an English author.

The difference is that books have been checked by an editor.

> I can point to my cheque from Knuth -- though it doesn't say -- as
> an example even he has code errors from time to time [not a TeX
> cheque though; just /Digital Typography/ (1st ed.)].
>
> Manuscripts -- especially those either from before the time of
> printing or never meant as books -- famously have errors.

But at what frequency? The error rate in edited materials is quite low.
You would not find "the proof is in the pudding" in an edited novel.
The web, on the other hand, is notoriously filled with misinformation.

-- 
Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:41 +0800
  Chauserian Poetry (was: Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:53 +0800
    Re: Chauserian Poetry occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 09:07 +0200
      Re: Chiuicerian Poetry Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0800
        Re: Chiuicerian Poetry occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 13:32 +0200
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-04 15:16 +1100
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:26 +0800
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 09:54 +0200
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-04 20:56 +1100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:56 +0800
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 13:22 +0200
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical  dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:18 -0700
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:17 +1100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:22 -0700
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-04 19:53 +0100
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:59 +0800
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 11:13 +0000
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 13:25 +0200
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 11:05 +0000
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 13:29 +0000
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 11:23 -0400
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 13:46 -0400
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:54 +0800
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 21:30 +0200
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-10-04 22:56 +0200
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 15:23 -0400
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 01:29 +0100
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 00:02 -0400
            Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-05 11:39 -0400
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 13:23 -0400
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-10-05 16:10 -0400
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-06 08:52 +1100
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:26 +0100
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 18:30 -0400
            Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:17 +0100
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-06 08:54 +1100
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-05 18:43 -0400
                Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-06 02:19 +0100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:41 +1100
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-05 09:41 +0200
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-05 04:26 +0200
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:29 +0100
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-10-04 19:46 +0200
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:58 +0800
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 15:18 -0400
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 06:50 +0800
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:35 +1100
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-10-05 04:32 +0200
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-05 21:32 +0100
            Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-06 08:57 +1100
              Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-06 02:22 +0100
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:11 -0700

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