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Re: Chauserian Poetry

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On 04/10/2026 04:53, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:

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> 
> Thinking about it a little further, I picked up a copy of Chauser in a
> library,
> 

"Chaucer"

>   https://archive.org/details/completeworksge00unkngoog/page/n35/mode/1up
> 
> and looking at that page we have
> 
>   Al hoolly youres, withouten otheres part!
>     Wherefore? y-wis, that I ne can ne may
>   My service chaungen; thus of al suche art        [1]
>     The lerninge I desyre for ever and ay.
>     And evermore, whyl that I live may,
>   In trouthe I wol your servant stille abyde,
>     Although my wo encrese day by day,             [2]
>   Til that to me be come the dethes tyde.          [3]
> 
> 
> Best wishes, and happy poetry!
> 
> [1] I have a feeling /art/ here is the verb to be, and not
> of art made by artists.  What do you think?
> 
> [2] Here, I suppose /wo/ is "woe" and not the sentence particle of
> Japanese grammar.
> 
> [3] Is /dethes/ depths?  Where did the p come from?  Was that totally
> made up to conform to some imaginary Latinian etymology?  Isn't that
> what happened to "debt?"  Is "debt" a form of /determinants/ in linear
> algebra?  That sounds stupid on the surface, but what is debt other than
> the determination of someone else to get paid back?  And who determines
> the determinants in linear algebra other than a loan shark?

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The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:41 +0800
  Chauserian Poetry (was: Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:53 +0800
    Re: Chauserian Poetry occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 09:07 +0200
      Re: Chiuicerian Poetry Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0800
        Re: Chiuicerian Poetry occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-10-04 13:32 +0200
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-04 15:16 +1100
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:26 +0800
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 09:54 +0200
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-04 20:56 +1100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:56 +0800
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 13:22 +0200
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical  dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:18 -0700
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:17 +1100
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:22 -0700
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-10-04 19:53 +0100
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:59 +0800
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 11:13 +0000
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 13:25 +0200
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-10-04 11:05 +0000
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 13:29 +0000
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 11:23 -0400
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 13:46 -0400
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:54 +0800
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-10-04 21:30 +0200
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? "Anders D. Nygaard" <news2012adn@google.com> - 2026-10-04 22:56 +0200
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 15:23 -0400
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:41 +1100
    Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-10-04 19:46 +0200
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 02:58 +0800
      Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-10-04 15:18 -0400
        Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-10-05 06:50 +0800
          Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-10-05 10:35 +1100
  Re: The proof is in the pudding, or where to get physical dictionaries of idioms? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-10-04 11:11 -0700

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