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Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES
Date 2026-09-22 07:04 +0100
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 22/09/2026 00:58, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-09-21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 20/09/2026 18:18, rbowman wrote:
>>> In retrospect what a weird bunch of crap was accepted to 'flatten the
>>> curve' and damage the economy.
>>
>> I think it probably did 'flatten the curve' significantly, at least
>> till the first vaccines arrived.
>>
>> Your life in very low population density Montana does not equate to
>> e.g. central London where people were dropping like flies.
>>
>> Or China, where the real mortality rates have never been revealed.
>>
>> The UKs final excess deaths over average were high - higher than
>> predicted - but were spread out enough that hospital beds were
>> available - just.
>>
>> Perhaps we should have just let people die. Might have made economic
>> sense, but it would have been political suicide
> 
> That doesn't make economic sense at all. Unless for people with
> extremist and radical views on what counts as "economy". The health of
> those in a society and their ability to participate in the economy is a
> key part of the economy.
> 
Old people in care homes are a drain.

> What makes economic sense is to make sure everybody stays healthy, and
> providing incentives to avoid people from appearing at a workplace or on
> a commute while infected.
> 
For the younger ones, yes.
Hence vaccines

> It did flatten curves a lot, only foiled by people who thought they knew
> better and made sure it *just* softened the bow instead of actually
> having a chance at stopping the virus.
> 
> People who say it didn't flatten probably aren't aware of how contagious
> SARS-CoV-2 is, especially together with its ability to spread before
> symptom onset, or also with no symptoms at all ever (was it one in five
> cases that is asymptomatic?).
> 
People who say it didn't flatten don't actually know what it did, or was 
projected to do.
In fact they don't know much at all, but a la Dunning Kruger, they are 
sure good at shouting that they do.

> They might also not be aware of research on long-term consequences of
> SARS-CoV-2 infection, and their severity, meaning even if it only
> softened the curve a bit, that could already be a significant net
> positive for the economy.
> 
Lot of people lost their smell and taste completely.

It was NOT a nice thing to catch.

No one know how many Chinese died. Or if they do, they ain't telling. 
Some people think upwards of 300 million.

Other nations with less good health systems say very few people died of 
Covid. They just buried them undiagnosed.

However as a long term watcher of the political elite, I have never seen 
them that rattled.

It was real, allright...

-- 
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your 
oppressors."
      - George Orwell

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  Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-18 12:07 +0200
    Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-18 23:57 -0400
      Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-19 21:48 +0200
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:46 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 13:52 +0200
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-23 21:19 +0000
              Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:57 +0200
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:07 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:38 -0400
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 13:57 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 00:32 -0400
  Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-18 12:08 +0200
    Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 00:03 -0400
      Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 10:12 +0100
        [OT] Cheques (was: Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 23:37 +0100
          Re: [OT] Cheques c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 02:08 -0400
            Re: [OT] Cheques Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 08:59 +0100
              Re: [OT] Cheques c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 04:43 -0400
            Re: [OT] Cheques Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:00 +0100
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 23:07 -0400
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:50 +0100
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 17:18 +0000
              Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 13:06 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 13:15 -0400
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-21 19:00 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:38 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 01:59 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 00:58 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 02:10 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:04 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 07:23 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 10:26 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-09-22 10:42 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 10:22 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-23 21:29 +0000
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 23:17 -0400
      Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-19 21:50 +0200
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 23:26 -0400
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 13:58 +0200
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:48 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 17:14 +0000
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 23:54 -0400
              Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:56 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:56 +0100
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 13:07 +0100

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