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Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES

From	Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES
Date	2026-09-22 10:22 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2026-09-22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 22/09/2026 00:58, Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2026-09-21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/09/2026 18:18, rbowman wrote:
>>>> In retrospect what a weird bunch of crap was accepted to 'flatten the
>>>> curve' and damage the economy.
>>>
>>> I think it probably did 'flatten the curve' significantly, at least
>>> till the first vaccines arrived.
>>>
>>> Your life in very low population density Montana does not equate to
>>> e.g. central London where people were dropping like flies.
>>>
>>> Or China, where the real mortality rates have never been revealed.
>>>
>>> The UKs final excess deaths over average were high - higher than
>>> predicted - but were spread out enough that hospital beds were
>>> available - just.

Oh, right, this was also one of the goals of "flattening the
curve". There'd still be plenty of cases, but not with exponential
growth that drained hospital care capacity. (And also ECMO capacity.)

>>>
>>> Perhaps we should have just let people die. Might have made economic
>>> sense, but it would have been political suicide
>>
>> That doesn't make economic sense at all. Unless for people with
>> extremist and radical views on what counts as "economy". The health of
>> those in a society and their ability to participate in the economy is a
>> key part of the economy.
>>
> Old people in care homes are a drain.

I'm not so sure about that, the care homes themselves are providing jobs
to staff, and these people have, at least if the state was functioning
as some are designed today, contributed to social security and health
services, paying for their care too. (Even though many end up having to
pay on their own too.)

>> What makes economic sense is to make sure everybody stays healthy, and
>> providing incentives to avoid people from appearing at a workplace or on
>> a commute while infected.
>>
> For the younger ones, yes.
> Hence vaccines

A case can be made that's everyone, not just younger ones. Anyone
getting sicker will mean increased costs for health services (at least
in developed countries, where the bill isn't entirely or in big part
paid by the patient), and possibly also less availability of close ones
to work.

[...]

-- 
Nuno Silva

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Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 23:56 -0400
  Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-18 12:07 +0200
    Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-18 23:57 -0400
      Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-19 21:48 +0200
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:46 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 13:52 +0200
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-23 21:19 +0000
              Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:57 +0200
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:07 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:38 -0400
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 13:57 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 00:32 -0400
  Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-18 12:08 +0200
    Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 00:03 -0400
      Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 10:12 +0100
        [OT] Cheques (was: Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 23:37 +0100
          Re: [OT] Cheques c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 02:08 -0400
            Re: [OT] Cheques Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 08:59 +0100
              Re: [OT] Cheques c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 04:43 -0400
            Re: [OT] Cheques Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:00 +0100
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 23:07 -0400
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:50 +0100
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 17:18 +0000
              Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 13:06 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 13:15 -0400
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-21 19:00 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:38 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 01:59 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 00:58 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 02:10 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:04 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 07:23 +0000
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 10:26 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-09-22 10:42 +0100
                Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 10:22 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-09-23 21:29 +0000
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 23:17 -0400
      Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-19 21:50 +0200
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 23:26 -0400
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 13:58 +0200
        Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:48 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 17:14 +0000
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 23:54 -0400
              Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:56 +0100
          Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:56 +0100
            Re: Note : Robo-Vacs now Legal WITNESSES The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 13:07 +0100

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