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| From | Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil |
| Date | 2026-09-08 17:44 +1000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <117oeck$3va34$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 8/09/2026 2:43 am, john larkin wrote: > On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 02:21:35 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> > wrote: > >> On 8/09/2026 1:01 am, john larkin wrote: >>> On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 16:38:49 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/09/2026 8:56 am, john larkin wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2026 23:21:04 +0100, JM >>>>> <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2026 15:06:11 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The US is wasting money defending Europe. Europe has been having wars >>>>>>> for thousands of years and probably will for thousands more. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's certainly printing money to do something overseas, whether that >>>>>> something is anything to do with defending europe is questionable. >>>>>> >>>>>> USA: 861 Military Bases in 95 Countries >>>>>> Russia: 35 Military Bases in 11 Countries >>>>>> China: 6 Military Bases in 6 Countries >>>>> >>>>> We should pull out an let them have at it. >>>>> >>>>> And maybe sell them weapons? >>>> >>>> There's nothing maybe about selling them weapons. The US >>>> military-industrial complex is mad-keen on getting the American >>>> government to encourage it's allies to spend more on defense, on the >>>> basis that a lot of that money will get spent with the American defense >>>> industry. >>>> >>>> Mary Kaldor's "The Baroque Arsenal" from 1981 >>>> >>>> https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1981-09-01/baroque-arsenal >>>> >>>> >>>> argues that the industry has an interest in promoting over-complicated >>>> weapons systems that they can sell for higher prices. >>>> >>>> The Ukraine's and Iran's cheap drones have put a crimp in that but the >>>> weapons industry is busy elaborating them in ways that will improve >>>> their cash-flows. >>> >>> Bows and arows are cheap. And people have a choice. >> >> Bows and arrows are cheap, but not all that effective. >> >> The people who chose them don't last long in combat situations. >> >> In classical Greek armies, the armored infantry-men were the citizens >> who were rich enough to afford bronze armor. If you were less well off >> you carried a bow into combat, and had to run away if somebody with good >> armor and a sword or spear came after you. Tactics was all about using >> you heavy infantry to protect your archer and slingers - and later on - >> your catapults. > > What's interesting to me is that so many countries want to buy F35's. And who bribes the buyers to get them to prefer F-35's? Non-American politicians are well aware that buying US weapons makes America politicians happy. Larger contributions to the election expenses of the US politicians from the US weapons manufacturers does seem to come into that. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-06 06:38 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-06 03:50 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-06 11:18 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-06 07:54 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-06 16:54 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-07 16:00 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-07 07:58 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-08 17:55 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-08 08:03 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-09-08 17:26 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-08 17:29 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-09 02:49 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil someone <2a59d59e3809f827ce709d3815e3950eef4a6a93af5557a93a7fdfba71460843@example.com> - 2026-09-09 17:45 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-06 18:36 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-09-08 11:29 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-09-09 15:36 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-11 18:22 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-06 12:53 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-09-06 15:08 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-06 07:55 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-06 20:19 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-06 11:54 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-06 20:08 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-06 21:12 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-06 13:06 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-07 16:15 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-09-06 16:09 -0400
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-06 22:31 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-09-06 18:50 -0400
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-07 10:10 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil joegwinn@comcast.net - 2026-09-07 10:01 -0400
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-08 18:06 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-08 21:15 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-08 23:58 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-11 20:37 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-12 10:33 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-07 16:21 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-09-06 23:33 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-06 22:53 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-06 23:03 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-07 18:59 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-10 19:37 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-14 18:04 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-06 15:06 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-06 23:21 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-06 15:56 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-07 16:38 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-07 08:01 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-08 02:21 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-07 09:43 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-08 17:44 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.duckdns.org> - 2026-09-14 10:27 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-07 16:26 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-09-07 10:23 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-07 09:37 +0100
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-09-07 11:15 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-07 08:03 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-08 02:30 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-07 07:19 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-07 16:09 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-07 08:07 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-08 02:51 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-09 19:47 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-09-09 13:08 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-11 18:24 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-12 16:37 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-09-12 09:55 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-12 08:18 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-13 01:37 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-12 09:07 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-13 03:46 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-12 08:07 -0700
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-13 04:00 +1000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-09-10 02:50 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-06 20:24 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-06 17:48 -0300
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil someone <2a59d59e3809f827ce709d3815e3950eef4a6a93af5557a93a7fdfba71460843@example.com> - 2026-09-09 17:45 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-11 18:35 +0000
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-11 20:46 +0200
Re: OT: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-09-11 19:46 +0000
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