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Re: OT

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: OT
Date 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
Organization A little, after lunch
Message-ID <1165h0d$33bfm$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 19/08/2026 19:30, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> (Should we take this to e-s.talk?)
> 
>    And pollute *that* group!? :-)
> 
>> On 2026/8/17 20:16:48, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> [...]
>>>>> The price I paid for Win11 Pro is for a license to use it, the
>>>>> price I paid for 365 is for a year of MS letting me use what
>>>>> I want from their apps and OneDrive, it's a equitable way of
>>>>> always having the latest software.  Buying a boxed copy of
>>>>> MS Office, OTOH, would lock me in to one arbitrary release.
>>
>> Depends whether you _want_ what the later releases give you. Granted, I
>> haven't really _looked_ into what the later ones give me, but I've yet
>> to find anything I want to do that my Office 2003 (with the patches for
>> the x versions so I can exchange with those who use them) can't do. (And
>> I certainly have no desire for OneDrive.) Each to his or her own, though!
> 
>    Exactly! My software ages quite nicely with time. Some important parts
> are already well over two decades 'old' and still going strong. Example:
> The software bringing you this post.
> 
>>>> Given that software has started deteriorating with each successive
>>>> release, constant upgrades are looking less and less attractive.
>>
>> That certainly is the impression I get. Plus needing constant
>> replacement of OS in order to use them - OK, "constant" is overstating,
>> but they only support so far back in OSs.
> 
>    The software I mention above started on XP and moved to Vista, 8.1 and
> now 11 without a hitch.
> 
>    And to stay on topic, the most important part, this newsreader, could
> run on all the OSs in the Newsgroups:' header! :-)
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>>> What do you do if you need a computer when you're driving?
>>>>> Do you even realize that you can get a map app on the smartphone?
>>>>
>>>> Most of my driving is in areas I've driven for 60 years.
>>>> If I need to find details of one of the few areas I'm not
>>>> familiar with, I have a map book in the car (and road maps
>>>> for longer trips).  Or I can look it up on my computer
>>>> before I leave home.  (That's called planning, doncha know.)
>>>
>> Plus, a lot of map "apps" - like a lot of other apps - are actually only
>> a gateway to an online database, i. e. won't work where there's no
>> signal. (OK, if you know you're going to use them in advance, you can in
>> many "apps" pre-download the maps for the areas you're going to be in.)>
> 
>    There are quite a lot of navigation apps which use offline maps and
> hence do not need a 'signal' (mobile data connection). I used them in
> Australia's rural/Outback/remote areas where there often just *is* no
> signal (except very expensive satellite Internet). A smartphone can
> easily hold the offline maps for whole countries (like the UK, AU, etc.)
> and more. One of these days, I'll add the NZ maps! :-)
> 
+1. I use Tomtom GO  and if I had a bigger phone Id keep more maps
It does not AFAICT use Internet connectivity to get its latest reports 
on speed cameras and traffic jams, but get them somehow it does.


> [...]

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Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
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        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
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          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-16 08:53 +0000
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    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-17 21:01 +0100
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
                OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:51 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 11:20 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 10:24 -0700
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:58 +0100
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:30 +0000
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 22:19 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:41 +0000
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:05 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 17:57 +0000
                Re: OT "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 18:59 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:48 +0000
                Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 21:23 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:50 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:32 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 22:44 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:05 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 22:12 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:44 +1000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:52 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:18 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 08:36 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:16 +0100
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                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:51 +0000
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                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:26 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 08:55 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 20:51 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:04 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 20:53 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-19 22:11 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:58 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:51 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:32 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:52 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:08 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:11 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 20:25 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-08-16 08:45 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 04:59 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-16 08:09 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 15:13 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 16:14 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 20:26 +0000
  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 13:45 +0100
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 13:01 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-16 20:15 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:48 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 10:32 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-08-17 18:13 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:12 -0400

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