Re: Resources to learn common lisp?

From	Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Resources to learn common lisp?
Date	2026-08-14 16:31 +0200
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On 2026-08-14 14:17, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <115jbp0$189sr$1@dont-email.me>,
> Janis Papanagnou  <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2026-08-13 04:18, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> Perl was a major advance on, I would say, two counts: it popularized
>>> regular expressions, and it popularized hash tables.
>>
>> Regexps were popular from many Unix tools before Perl came up.
>> And hash tables were popular from Awk, which influenced Perl
>> as well.
> 
> Hash tables for fast lookups had been known for decades before
> awk was written, and regular expressions applied to text
> processing predate Unix by some years.  Thompson's paper
> described a technique (what has come to be known as "Thompson's
> Construction") used on the IBM 7090 computer, predating Multics.

Yes, sure. (And I didn't claim that Unixes were where they first
appeared.) But above we spoke about their popularization.[*]

Would you also say that these appearances made Regexps "popular"?

With the dissemination of the Unixes they certainly became widely
popular; this is at least my observation.

Concerning hash tables, I haven't the whole historic picture here
(i.e. where they were implemented, their grade of dissemination
and popularity) beyond that they're comparably old as concept; my
point was just that Perl was not the "popularizing factor". In
(standard-)Awk they are actually the only non-primitive data type
available (as opposed to Perl or early Shells, the latter even with
only severely restricted arrays).

Janis

[*] I'm not sure you meant your post as addendum or corrigendum.

>[...]

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Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
          Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
            Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
              Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
                kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
                Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
                Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
                Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
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                Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:18 +0800
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:16 +0200
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 02:18 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-13 04:56 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 21:13 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:25 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-13 19:01 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 14:50 -0700
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:27 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-15 03:18 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 02:47 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-14 12:20 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:37 -0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-14 12:17 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:31 +0200
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:29 +0800
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-14 15:30 +0300
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:45 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-14 17:15 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 19:51 +0200
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 12:05 -0700
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 22:46 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:38 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:26 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-01 09:08 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:49 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:37 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 16:54 -0700
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-02 07:39 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:39 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:59 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 16:12 +0800
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:50 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:02 +0800
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:36 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:11 +0800
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:49 -0400
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