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| Subject | Re: Resources to learn common lisp? |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c, comp.lang.pascal |
| References | (18 earlier) <gaNdS.82160$la89.71113@fx06.ams4> <1159f4c$26g2n$1@dont-email.me> <RmTeS.214701$la89.42778@fx06.ams4> <115ha5n$kncd$2@dont-email.me> <115j9h6$19ll5$2@dont-email.me> |
| From | Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> |
| Organization | Watcom Pro Ltd. |
| Message-ID | <TSafS.2$2G1.0@fx09.ams4> (permalink) |
| Date | 2026-08-13 11:29 +0800 |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 13/08/2026 10:18 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 10:16:25 +0200, bixbox wrote: > >>> On the subject of Common Lisp, I find it more than disturbing when >>> a codebase lacks the basic usage of hash tables. >>> >>> https://www.sbcl.org/manual/#hash-table-extensions >> >> unless you find some code base that use hash table all over the place. >> :) > > Perl was a major advance on, I would say, two counts: it popularized > regular expressions, and it popularized hash tables. Putting those two > features together made for an extremely useful high-level language, > which is what I think finally killed BASIC. As always, Lawrence, you're mistaken about everything. I believe it was A.W.K. that popularized both regular expressions and hash tables. Of course, I'm now on a second thought about the has tables, but I'm abso- lutely certain it was the A.W.K. programming language that popularized the regular expressions, and that popularity is what drove people to make Perl use basically the same syntax, a syntax that has also found its way into Dtrace, which is a tool you've never used, because I don't think the /Santa Cruz Operation/ ever put Dtrace into OpenServer. You can correct me about that, if I'm wrong. In any case, a casual web search, which too often relies on L.L.M. summ- aries these days, seems to indicate both G.N.U. and the /Invisible Is- land/ m- A.W.K. have hash tables built-in. So now you get to correct me, if and only if, the hash tables in Perl are older than any implementation of A.W.K. Good luck! Now, on the subject of BASIC, I belive it was universities choosing Wirth's Pascal as a first programming language in their curriculum that killed B.A.S.I.C. Do you disagree with that? Then of course, Borland Pascal with the Pascal edition of Turbo Vision which is unrelated to /dark vision/ among magical creatures in fantasy literature, became extremely popular, and only managed to get replaced by the Herculean efforts of Stroustrup's C++. Or we'd all be coding our massively multiplayer online video games in a dialect of Delphi! -- Johann | email: invalid -> com | http://www.myrkraverk.com/blog/ I'm not from the Internet, I just work there. | via Easynews.com https://bsky.app/profile/myrkraverk.bsky.social | for ( ;; ) _:;
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Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:17 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-07-31 12:21 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 01:48 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-05 13:13 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:48 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-06 09:05 +0200
Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C (was: Re: Resources to learn common lisp?) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 05:33 +0800
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-10 01:11 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:10 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-10 17:41 -0300
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-10 23:53 +0000
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-11 14:29 +0000
kqueues and port_create() (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:51 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-11 20:59 -0700
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:07 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 03:23 -0400
Re: kqueues and port_create() Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:50 +0000
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:33 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-12 02:22 -0700
Re: kqueues and port_create() Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-08-12 20:55 -0400
Re: kqueues and port_create() Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:37 +0800
Re: kqueues and port_create() "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 12:59 -0700
Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-14 12:26 +0100
D.N.S. in Common Lisp (was: Re: Manipulating C code at the AST level, in C) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 07:59 +0800
Re: D.N.S. in Common Lisp Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-12 09:01 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-12 13:18 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? bixbox <noreply@example.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:16 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 02:18 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-13 04:56 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 21:13 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-13 12:25 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-13 19:01 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 14:50 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-14 08:27 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-15 03:18 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-14 02:47 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-14 12:20 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-16 15:37 -0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-08-14 12:17 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:31 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-13 11:29 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-14 15:30 +0300
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:45 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-08-14 17:15 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-08-14 19:51 +0200
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 12:05 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-31 22:46 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:38 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:26 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-01 09:08 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 07:49 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 23:37 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 16:54 -0700
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <tfb@work.it.out> - 2026-08-02 07:39 +0000
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:39 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 23:59 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-01 16:12 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-04 22:50 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 19:02 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 19:36 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-09 02:11 +0800
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-08-09 18:49 -0400
Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 13:08 -0700
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