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Re: Teaching science and religion

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x3 wrote:
> On 8/12/26 05:59, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 13:30:42 -0500, sticks <wolverine01@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/11/2026 4:05 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>
>>>> So much bullshit in there that it is hard to know where to start.
>>>
>>>> Yet again, you try to bolster your bullshit arguments by making up
>>>> bullshit lies about other people.
>>>
>>>> More Ron bullshit.
>>>
>>>> Even more Ron bullshit.
>>>
>>> It's been a long time since I read any of the Emperor's mess, and
>>> fortunately not many reply to any of it.  Why feed it?
>>
>> Two reasons.
>>
>> First of all, we all have our personal touchpapers and one of mine is
>> someone calling me a liar and then making up their own lies about me
>> to justify their claim.
>>
>> The second, perhaps more important one, is that whilst like just about
>> everybody here, I generally just ignore Ron's ranting about stuff like
>> his "Top Six", when he misrepresents a paper or article as he has done
>> here, I believe it needs to be rebuffed. If it is not rebuffed, there
>> is a risk that his misrepresentation may be viewed as correct. Not
>> overly important, perhaps, in the context of a dying Usenet but part
>> of the problem with AI is that nobody really knows what sources it
>> uses and, whilst it is unlikely that they include Usenet, there is
>> every possibility of that in the future. Leaving Ron's
>> misrepresentations unrebuffed creates a risk, however small, that they
>> may become part of the increasing problem of GIGO with AI.
>>
>>>
>>>> You really should focus on sorting your own mess out.
>>>
>>> You got this part right.
> 
> Well you know.  Betsy Ross sewed pentacles into the US flag.
> 
> Pentacles were symbols of Satan long before the existence of
> the United States.  But of course, St George was or is the
> patron saint of England and there was of course a 'George
> Washington' versus a 'George III' at the time, and I am
> thinking that George Washington may have wanted something like
> a shield or star of David at the time perhaps at least initially.
> 
> As for 'AI', I think that a lot of it is computer programs that
> systematically falsify and modify medical records to increase
> the profits of insurance companies.  But some if it also seems
> to be systematic and repetitive propaganda and advertisement
> programs to say, 'no, no', 'AI' stands for 'Aleph Lamed' (maybe
> the 'I' is an 'l' or something like that.  'AI' is an oracle
> that should be worshiped as a god.  And what can one say?
> 'Yahoo' is a name similar but not identical to 'Yahovah' and
> 'Google' is similar to 'God' but not identical also.  Just
> different enough to produce plausible deniability when it
> comes to using the names of deities to advertise their products.
> (Like Baidu in the far east is similar but not identical to
> Buddha.)
> 
> Anyway, when it comes to 'religion' and 'science' I once
> remember when I was a kid a long time ago.  I was still in
> elementary school, but I had two older sisters who were
> attending early years in college and I was visiting there.
> We went to a place where there was a college student showing
> stars and planets through a telescope.  While there I started
> quoting to him things I had seen on TV in a television program,
> Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos' such as 'my country is the world, my
> religion, science'.
> 
> Then afterward, however the college student showing stars
> through the telescope said something I did not expect -
> 'Eh, there is no dichotomy between religion and science
> at all'.  I should remind you that this was an actual
> student in college perhaps commissioned to show stars
> through a telescope on various occasions and not some
> TV program.  Anyway that was a long time ago, but I
> remember that.  When it comes to Ron Okimoto, I tend
> to get the idea that he says word like 'ID perps' by
> habit, and when you start doing things like that by
> habit, that can some times be a trap.  Who knows.
> 
For me, the real problem is I get drilled with Christianity every night. 
It's a feature of this current summer. But what's boggling about it is 
how it is gentrified and neologized. Like, how many times am I going to 
hear the story of David betraying a soldier's life repackaged? It's so 
intuitive yet why the false shine they put on it? The same concepts over 
and over, as if they were still interesting. By drilling it into my 
head, they are creating a perfect atheist beast.

I hate to use the word retarded but I'm having trouble grasping at the 
correct vocabulary. This retarded explanation of religion over & over.

YES, I'VE HEARD ABOUT JESUS!

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Teaching science and religion RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> - 2026-07-27 18:36 -0500
  Re: Teaching science and religion Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 10:05 +0100
    Re: Teaching science and religion RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 09:35 -0500
      Re: Teaching science and religion Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-11 08:43 -0600
      Re: Teaching science and religion Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 13:48 +0100
        Re: Teaching science and religion RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 09:17 -0500
          Re: Teaching science and religion Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 08:09 +0100
            Re: Teaching science and religion RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 11:05 -0500
    Re: Teaching science and religion sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-08-11 13:30 -0500
      Re: Teaching science and religion RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 19:02 -0500
      Re: Teaching science and religion Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> - 2026-08-12 13:59 +0100
        Re: Teaching science and religion sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-08-12 10:13 -0500
          Re: Teaching science and religion Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 11:23 +0100
            Re: Teaching science and religion Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-14 12:09 -0600
        Re: Teaching science and religion x3 <x@x.net> - 2026-08-12 11:55 -0700
          Re: Teaching science and religion Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-12 13:47 -0600

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