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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? |
| Date | 2026-08-05 21:38 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <1150ah9$3blde$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 05 Aug 2026 18:46:59 +0100 (BST), Theo wrote: > RISC OS is not Unix (probably wouldn't pass certification even with > UnixLib) but the GUI borrows certain ideas from how Unix programs > work together on the command line. Here’s a subtle question: how exactly is the command line implemented at the kernel level? In a Unix-type system, the command line is passed as the “argument vector” (you may be familiar with the “argv” that you see as an argument to the main() of a C program). Whereas in Windows (and its precursor MS-DOS), you have the simple string buffer inherited from CP/M from the 8-bit era, which in turn copied it from the DEC operating systems that came before. The difference is, trying to pass multiple command-line arguments in a simple string buffer requires the use of shell-style escaping conventions, even when no shell is involved. Whereas on Unix-type systems, it is easy (and common) for one program to directly invoke another, passing the argument vector directly, without having to worry about escaping any characters that might be interpreted specially by a shell -- because you don’t need to go through a shell. So, which way does RISC OS do it?
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Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 22:53 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-11 08:23 -0700
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-18 17:34 +0100
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-18 20:58 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-03 23:24 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-03 23:53 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-04 00:48 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-04 02:56 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-04 03:08 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-04 15:33 +0100
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-04 14:45 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-04 21:31 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-05 00:19 +0100
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-16 21:53 +0800
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:09 +0100
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 00:29 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-05 03:18 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 04:39 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 00:31 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-05 03:22 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-05 03:24 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-05 18:46 +0100
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-05 21:38 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> - 2026-08-05 21:55 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-06 03:30 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-06 15:13 -0300
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-07 10:16 +0100
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-07 21:46 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-10 08:46 -0700
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-12 12:28 +0100
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 15:38 -0700
UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing?) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-06 13:54 +0100
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-06 23:58 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing?) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-07 13:17 +0100
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing?) Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-07 17:18 +0000
Re: UNIX certification Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-08 12:16 +0100
Re: UNIX certification Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-08-08 18:41 -0400
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-13 23:23 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp "Phigan" <phigan@mutinybbs.com.remove-51d-this> - 2026-08-14 01:38 -0400
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-14 12:14 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-14 21:18 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-14 21:31 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp "Phigan" <phigan@mutinybbs.com.remove-110l-this> - 2026-08-16 10:14 -0400
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2026-08-16 21:33 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-16 22:44 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-17 14:24 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-17 14:32 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-14 20:52 -0700
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-15 04:21 +0000
Multics (ws: Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-16 21:36 +0800
Re: Multics (ws: Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-16 07:32 -0700
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:29 +0100
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 12:26 +0000
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-14 07:31 -0700
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened ToDocument-CentricComp "Phigan" <phigan@mutinybbs.com.remove-110l-this> - 2026-08-16 10:12 -0400
Princess Irulan (was: Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-CentricComp) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-16 21:33 +0800
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing?) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:20 +0100
Re: UNIX certification (was: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-16 22:16 +0000
Re: UNIX certification antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-21 12:56 +0000
Re: UNIX certification Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 22:29 +0000
System calls in assembly (was: Re: UNIX certification) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-16 21:40 +0800
Extensible, interoperable standards (Document-Centric Computing) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-05-18 20:56 -0700
Re: Extensible, interoperable standards (Document-Centric Computing) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-19 05:49 +0000
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-05-12 20:16 -0400
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-05-18 10:31 -0400
Re: Whatever Happened To Document-Centric Computing? David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-08-04 16:20 +0100
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