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Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance"

From Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance"
Date 2026-08-05 12:59 -0700
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On 2026-08-05 12:40, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> On 8/5/2026 3:26 PM, Alan wrote:
> 
>>>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just great, an ARM Microsoft-brand laptop, so state-of-the- 
>>>>> art, so cool.  Expensive, admittedly, heh.  Comes with Win11 Home, 
>>>>> BTW.  Not Pro.  I don't get that.  A mini PC from China has a false 
>>>>> but yet workable license for 11 Pro, but this thing is legit so it 
>>>>> has Home. People with money who don't really know computers make a 
>>>>> cash cow for MS, heh.
>>>>
>>>> Or get a better, faster system for less and buy a MacBook Neo.
>>>
>>> Maybe a better value in a way, but it's Apple, so no way I'd be 
>>> interested.  I wouldn't buy a Surface, either, though, because it's 
>>> OEM Wintendo bullshit, a mini PC with a legitimate Win11 license 
>>> purchased from Microsoft (just use "change product key" in settings) 
>>> is perfect for me.
>>
>> You not being interested in better value is what make you a zealot, 
>> not a rational person.
> 
> 
> Uh, dude, read what I wrote, I did get a better value, by not getting 
> *either* of the Neo or the Surface corporate products.  I paid an 
> inexpensive price for the hardware, and $200 for Win11 Pro retail.  That 
> is the best value *possible*.
> 

And how many "upgrades" did you have to make to make your computer right?

Lay it all out

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"Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 14:15 -0400
  Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 21:57 +0000
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 18:05 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-07-30 02:31 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:16 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 05:03 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 02:55 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 16:49 +0000
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:59 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:37 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:18 -0400
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            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 14:18 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:50 +0000
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:10 -0400
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-01 06:58 +0000
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      Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 03:21 +0000
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      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 01:31 -0400
        Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 05:34 +0000
          Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-30 20:32 -0400
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-30 20:32 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:04 -0400
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        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 15:52 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 17:16 -0400
            Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:35 +0000
              Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 17:55 -0400
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                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance   ” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-30 23:20 +0000
                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance ” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 19:36 -0400
                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance   ” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-31 00:08 +0000
                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance ” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 21:08 -0400
                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance   ” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-31 01:52 +0000
                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance ” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 00:38 -0400
                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance   ” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-01 00:18 +0000
                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance ” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 12:29 -0400
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                Re: “Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance ” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 11:06 -0400
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              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 19:03 -0400
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  Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:15 -0700
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 15:23 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:26 -0700
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 15:40 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:59 -0700
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 16:05 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 13:10 -0700
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