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Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense

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On 8/1/26 17:50, Eddie Martin wrote:
> On 2/08/2026 9:25 am, Kevin Bowling wrote:
>> On 8/1/26 06:54, noel wrote:
>>> On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 04:50:28 -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many larger providers use multiple A records for good reasons, it's
>>>
>>> yeah, they're too cheap to use what the big boys use hardware load
>>> balancers
>>>
>>>> valid to design around articles flooding into networks and you really
>>>> shouldn't put a load balancer in front of feeders.. just use the
>>>
>>> /me shakes head
>>>
>>>> protocols effectively.  Inferring that there must be a relationship to
>>>> IPs or that an operator is forever bound to one set of systems/PoPs
>>>> doesn't reflect how these systems are run.  You need to have proper 
>>>> rDNS
>>>
>>> thats contrary to my experience in the real world of running ISP's and
>>> carriers for over 30 years, crap thats over 35 years now actiually
>>>
>>>> set up and the 3 major news server software handle this per design.
>>>
>>>
>>> whoooooooooooppppieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee who cares, are you trying to tell 
>>> me i
>>> should adjust the way i do things, the same way national carriers have
>>> been doing this for over 30 years just because you say so, just to
>>> resolve one persons M.O.O? you're a bigger fucking idiot than I was
>>> starting to think if so.
>>
>> I was guiding you nicely to the fact that you have no idea what you 
>> are talking about.  I've helped build two of the largest CDNs in the 
>> world, and you do it by using the Internet Protocols as designed never 
>> hardware load balancers which cannot scale and are additional failure 
>> domain.
>>
> 
> 
> Good grief, I can't remain silent in this who's got the bigger dick 
> contest any longer, how you do things today is nothing like how it was 
> done before, having worked at high levels in ATT for decades (thankfully 
> I am recently retired so I no longer need to deal with rubbish like 
> this), hardware load balancers have long and are still very common 
> today, or were 7 months ago anyway. So what if you have helped build 
> (I've never heard your name before a couple months ago when you started 
> contributing to INN2)a CDN, a CDN is a CDN, it solves a  mostly 
> different problem, or perhaps your CDN was at Alphabet or Facebook, it 
> would explain your arrogances.

The Internet Protocols are the same, only the L7 differs.  Inbound NNTP 
is basically the worst possible place to use a load balancer, you just 
have the feeders peer with each other and outward and everything flood 
fills without any additional complexity.  Reader servers might benefit 
from a sticky session LB, and a _proxy_ (not LB) would be less 
ridiculous for inbound if it was providing routing or message oracle for 
some distributed backend.

> 
>>>>> All in all its just common courtesy to give your peers a heads up, its
>>>>> fine if Jesse no longer wants peering, jesus, it took me 3 weeks to
>>>>> discover he was MIA courtesy of the pending articles list file hitting
>>>>> 10Mb which triggered the email alert, anyways he can either accept the
>>>>> advice or ignore it, the sun will still rise in the morning.
>>>
>>>> Maybe look at the bigger picture of what he is doing and that most of
>>>> use are cramming administration into active life.  Your server your
>>>> rules, so to each their own.
>>>
>>> ohh wow really, and i thought running my organisation 15 hours a day 6
>>> days a week was because i was bored and wanted to avoid the family..
>>> thats where i went wrong.. jesus fucking christ. Jesse miught lack 
>>> common
>>> courtesy, but you lack common sense, and thats worse.
>>> dont waste your time trolling me again.
>>
>> The mercurial reaction to your own Dunning-Kruger limits is at least 
>> comical.  If you don't want peers, drop them.  You're the one making 
>> the spectacle and an ass out of yourself.
> 
> On the contrary you all are making an ass out of yourselves. Both you 
> and Noel need time out, Jesse does need to learn if he wants to provide 
> a service, he needs to consider everyone he provides services to, or 
> request they use hostnames or thank but decline to peer, yes, stuff 
> happens, but it takes 30 seconds to post a note in here even after the 
> fact saying "hey guys" he instead probably spent more energy attacking 
> Noel then he did in putting in thought to how his consequences affect 
> other peers (and now prospective other peers who see how they get 
> treated), and yes Noel should have fired an Email to Jesse instead of 
> venting here, it had merit, but should have been raised in private. 
> Although as he alludes, maybe in jest, that he wont be using Jesse's or 
> anyone's peering shortly either way, a shame to see an apparently long 
> time service pulled because of usenet admin squabbles, and I find it 
> strange that Kevin thinks he can speak to this where from what I can 
> tell, he does not and has never run an NNTP server, let alone service, 
> so not sure where he thinks he can speak on this matter, only one who 
> has run them for a substantial amount of time actually understands, 
> perhaps his misguided beliefs that CDN and usenet are the same.

Another hyperbolic joker.  I've run a peer for 15 years, not hard to 
observe.

> You all need time out to think and reflect.
> 
> Enjoy your weekend.
> 
> 
> 

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another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 09:56 +1000
  Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-08-01 03:13 +0000
    Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-08-01 06:18 +0200
      Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> - 2026-08-01 08:52 +0200
        Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 01:10 -0700
          Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 20:55 +1000
            Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 04:50 -0700
              Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 23:54 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2026-08-01 16:25 +0000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-08-01 21:02 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-02 09:04 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-08-02 12:54 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-04 08:23 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2026-08-04 02:34 +0000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-06 00:12 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-08-02 11:45 +0000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 16:25 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Eddie Martin <ejm@nospammy.myplace.de> - 2026-08-02 10:50 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 18:19 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Eddie Martin <ejm@nospammy.myplace.de> - 2026-08-02 13:29 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 21:02 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-08-02 06:41 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 22:11 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-08-02 13:02 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense D <J@M> - 2026-08-02 06:47 +0200
        Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 20:08 +1000
          Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> - 2026-08-01 16:35 +0200
    Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 20:07 +1000
  Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-08-15 01:47 -0500
    Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2026-08-15 13:17 +0000
      Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-08-29 22:32 -0500

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