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Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense

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On 8/1/26 03:55, noel wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 01:10:08 -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote:
> 
>> On 7/31/26 23:52, Ray Banana wrote:
>>> Thus spake Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
>>>    
>>>> Am 01.08.26 um 05:13 schrieb Nomen Nescio:
>>>>> Do you not use DNS to refresh your name -> IP mapping regularly?
>>>> IIRC INN resolved the names one time and then never does it again
>>>> until restarted. Although that is from hearsay.
>>>
>>> That would indicate that a daily cron job is missing:
>>>
>>> 0       0   *   *   *   test -x /usr/local/news/bin/ctlinnd &&
>>>    /usr/local/news/bin/ctlinnd -t 300 -s reload incoming.conf "flush
>>>    cache"
>>>
>>> Has been working for me for decades.
>>
>> Yeah you got it, that's the intention with inn right now and there's an
>> issue on GitHub describing how to fix:
>> https://github.com/InterNetNews/inn/issues/89.
>>
>> There are plenty of reasons to not expect a peer to be fixed to one IP
>> unless you have a mutual understanding of that case.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kevin
> 
> even running multiple front ends using a load balancer which is what we
> did at $previous_life -not here in my own organisation as these days
> usage is obviously very different from 30 yrs ago, or even 10 years ago,
> everything can run on one server when doing text only groups, even with
> decades of retention, we have a HP dl380 gen4 in early days, only had 16G
> ram, it could happly handle 600 concurrent usenet sessions, and the load
> was still under 1, I guess thats why its hard to get me to dump dnews.
> 
> Anyways I have enough peers, and as most my peers peer with each other
> (why I've never approached Ray), I fail to see why I too need 30 peers,
> I'm happy with the 5, I have (excluding another 4 what I call downstream
> peers which are universities and dont tend to post much outside their
> local groups).
> 
> Some of my peers have changed IP's over time for various reasons, in
> recent times, one we've probably all seen one with their thoughtful
> notifications, that are appreciated by some, and they should be seen as
> an example on how to communicate changes, well done there, over the
> ditch ;)
> 
> So Kevin I see no valid reason for a peer not to be fixed to one IP (if
> multiple you let your peers know -how its always been done), in fact isnt
> it a case that most of us here have policies requiring a static IP to
> even be considered for peering :)

Many larger providers use multiple A records for good reasons, it's 
valid to design around articles flooding into networks and you really 
shouldn't put a load balancer in front of feeders.. just use the 
protocols effectively.  Inferring that there must be a relationship to 
IPs or that an operator is forever bound to one set of systems/PoPs 
doesn't reflect how these systems are run.  You need to have proper rDNS 
set up and the 3 major news server software handle this per design.

> All in all its just common courtesy to give your peers a heads up, its
> fine if Jesse no longer wants peering, jesus, it took me 3 weeks to
> discover he was MIA courtesy of the pending articles list file hitting
> 10Mb which triggered the email alert, anyways he can either accept the
> advice or ignore it, the sun will still rise in the morning.
Maybe look at the bigger picture of what he is doing and that most of 
use are cramming administration into active life.  Your server your 
rules, so to each their own.

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another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 09:56 +1000
  Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-08-01 03:13 +0000
    Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-08-01 06:18 +0200
      Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> - 2026-08-01 08:52 +0200
        Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 01:10 -0700
          Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 20:55 +1000
            Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 04:50 -0700
              Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 23:54 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2026-08-01 16:25 +0000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-08-01 21:02 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-02 09:04 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-08-02 12:54 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-04 08:23 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2026-08-04 02:34 +0000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-06 00:12 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-08-02 11:45 +0000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 16:25 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Eddie Martin <ejm@nospammy.myplace.de> - 2026-08-02 10:50 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 18:19 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Eddie Martin <ejm@nospammy.myplace.de> - 2026-08-02 13:29 +1000
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 21:02 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-08-02 06:41 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-08-01 22:11 -0700
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-08-02 13:02 +0200
                Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense D <J@M> - 2026-08-02 06:47 +0200
        Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 20:08 +1000
          Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> - 2026-08-01 16:35 +0200
    Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-08-01 20:07 +1000
  Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-08-15 01:47 -0500
    Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2026-08-15 13:17 +0000
      Re: another peeve with newsmaster who dont do common sense Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-08-29 22:32 -0500

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