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Re: 1950s cinema broadcast

From MikeS <MikeS@fred.com>
Newsgroups uk.tech.broadcast
Subject Re: 1950s cinema broadcast
Date 2026-07-24 10:50 +0100
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On 24/07/2026 10:27, Scott wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 09:48:32 +0100, Roderick Stewart
> <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 20:20:53 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure the BBC coverage was 405 live only. I _think_ the only
>>> way to record video at the time was indeed Kinescope or similar
>>> recording to film. (VERA was some years later wasn't it?)
>> [...]
>>> that would make sense: I remember reading somewhere that the BBC feed
>>> was recorded to film using one field only
>>
>> Yes. There was no way of electronically recording a video signal at
>> the time. Kinescope recording, as the Americans called it,  or FR
>> (Film Recording), as the BBC called it, was the only way, and it was
>> only possible at that time to record alternate fields.
> 
> Sorry but what does 'alternate field' mean? Is it every second scan by
> the TV camera? What prevented all the fields being transferred? Was it
> a limitation in how fast the camera could be run.
>>
>> The 405 line system had 15 lines of blanking in each field interval,
>> therefore only 187.5 active picture lines in each field, so the only
>> recording that exists of the coronation broadcast is about five hours
>> of monochrome film with a vertical resolution of 187.5 lines.
>>
>> Because of the importance of the occasion, there were also various
>> teams using film cameras to make documentaries or cinema news items,
>> and some of them were using colour film, so we have some of the event
>> in colour, but this was separate from the actual broadcast.
>>
> What about the earlier query about showing live colour in cinemas.
> Clearly, this was separate from the BBC but was Pye for example
> experimenting with colour TV cameras? Could my friend have seen live
> coverage in colour in a Rank cinema?

I remember a few days after the coronation that our entire school 
marched to a local cinema to see it on a colour film. Possibly after all 
the years your friend is confusing that film with live TV.

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1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 10:39 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-23 11:05 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 12:02 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 13:50 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 15:26 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-23 10:15 +0000
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-23 11:29 +0000
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 13:46 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-23 13:00 +0000
        Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 15:35 +0100
          Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:38 +0100
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 17:42 +0100
              Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:04 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 14:12 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 14:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-08-19 15:21 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-20 02:31 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 14:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 15:36 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 18:26 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-20 02:37 +0000
                VVS (was: Re: 1950s cinema broadcast) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 21:25 +0100
                Re: VVS NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 22:52 +0100
                Re: VVS Old John <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-08-20 06:16 +0000
                Re: VVS John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-08-20 09:54 +0100
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-23 17:43 +0100
              Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 20:20 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 09:48 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 10:27 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2026-07-24 10:50 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 11:03 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 15:36 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:42 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 11:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 12:33 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 15:43 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:51 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-24 15:57 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 16:25 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 17:16 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 17:23 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:10 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 09:41 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-26 11:11 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 13:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-07-26 13:53 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:42 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-07-27 08:31 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-27 10:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 15:28 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-27 10:30 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:12 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-24 13:17 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-24 13:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 14:11 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 19:04 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-25 19:45 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-25 20:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 22:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 23:13 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-26 10:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:28 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 09:47 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:12 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 23:15 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 18:52 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 10:04 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-25 10:29 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 16:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-25 18:54 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 23:06 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-25 18:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 08:53 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-26 09:29 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-26 10:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 13:44 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-25 19:45 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:08 +0000
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:27 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 13:02 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 13:41 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 19:53 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:47 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 15:41 +0100
        Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-27 16:32 +0100
          Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-27 16:55 +0000
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-28 16:08 +0100

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