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Re: 1950s cinema broadcast

From "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Newsgroups uk.tech.broadcast
Subject Re: 1950s cinema broadcast
Date 2026-07-23 20:20 +0100
Organization 255 software
Message-ID <113tpim$3lgfp$7@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <d2346lttlohe7fodvlb091s9s1trglmr44@4ax.com> <113t398$1n28l$1@artemis.inf.ed.ac.uk> <1rypgm7.1y8qbrh1gszcxsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <94d46ll823na99oosb5rga8qp7uesflhml@4ax.com> <113tgb5$4jp$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2026/7/23 17:43:17, Max Demian wrote:
> On 23/07/2026 16:38, Scott wrote:
[coronation, 1953]
>> But am I correct that the BBC coverage was not 'filmed' in colour (for
>> conversion to monochrome)? Was it recorded at all or did the BBC leave
>> this to the film industry? Was there a method of recording video in
>> 1953 other than using film?

I'm pretty sure the BBC coverage was 405 live only. I _think_ the only
way to record video at the time was indeed Kinescope or similar
recording to film. (VERA was some years later wasn't it?)
> 
> The BBC cameras were monochrome, transmitted live and recorded onto cine 
> file to be flown across the Atlantic (by the RAF) so Canada/US could 
> watch it when they got up.
> 
> The colour film was a completely different exercise, with conventional 
> cine cameras. When they show film of the Coronation I think it's always 
> this that they show, often converted to monochrome to make it look "old".
> 
that would make sense: I remember reading somewhere that the BBC feed
was recorded to film using one field only (which make sense: the
fast-pull-down camera was many years into the future, so attempting to
film both frames would have missed part of one field, which would have
looked horrible), which would have made it less than 200 lines of active
content, pretty grotty - and the "film" I have seen, though not great,
has I think mostly been better than that, so your suggestion of colour
stock monochromed sounds plausible. I had never thought of that - I'd
always thought it was good for the date. That would explain why.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
- Mahatma Gandhi (according to the film Gandhi [1982])

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1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 10:39 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-23 11:05 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 12:02 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 13:50 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 15:26 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-23 10:15 +0000
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-23 11:29 +0000
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 13:46 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-23 13:00 +0000
        Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 15:35 +0100
          Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:38 +0100
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 17:42 +0100
              Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:04 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 14:12 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 14:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-08-19 15:21 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-20 02:31 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 14:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 15:36 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 18:26 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-20 02:37 +0000
                VVS (was: Re: 1950s cinema broadcast) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 21:25 +0100
                Re: VVS NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-08-19 22:52 +0100
                Re: VVS Old John <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-08-20 06:16 +0000
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-23 17:43 +0100
              Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-23 20:20 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 09:48 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 10:27 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2026-07-24 10:50 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 11:03 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 15:36 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:42 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 11:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 12:33 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 15:43 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-07-24 15:51 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-24 15:57 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 16:25 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-24 17:16 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 17:23 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:10 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 09:41 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-26 11:11 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 13:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-07-26 13:53 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:42 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-07-27 08:31 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-27 10:34 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 15:28 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-27 10:30 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:12 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-24 13:17 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-24 13:00 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-24 14:11 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 19:04 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-25 19:45 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-25 20:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 22:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 23:13 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-26 10:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:28 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 09:47 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-24 21:12 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 23:15 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-24 18:52 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 10:04 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-25 10:29 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 16:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-25 18:54 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-25 23:06 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-07-25 18:15 +0000
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 08:53 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-26 09:29 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-26 10:58 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-26 13:44 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-25 19:45 +0100
                Re: 1950s cinema broadcast wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-08-19 09:08 +0000
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 16:27 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-07-23 13:02 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-23 13:41 +0100
  Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-07-25 19:53 +0100
    Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-26 21:47 +0100
      Re: 1950s cinema broadcast "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-27 15:41 +0100
        Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-27 16:32 +0100
          Re: 1950s cinema broadcast richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-07-27 16:55 +0000
            Re: 1950s cinema broadcast Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-28 16:08 +0100

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