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GPUs evolved from SIMD to MIMD [NVIDIA Volta 2017] (Re: herpes blister rossy boy is confused)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.logic, sci.physics, comp.lang.prolog
Subject GPUs evolved from SIMD to MIMD [NVIDIA Volta 2017] (Re: herpes blister rossy boy is confused)
Date 2026-07-20 17:11 +0200
Message-ID <113ldr2$4ljd$2@solani.org> (permalink)
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Hi,

Mostlikely the putin troll has still a
mental model of a GPU from the times
of Sputnik. But GPUs have evolved

from SIMD to MIMD. I posted that already
at least 3x times that a NVIDIA Volta
architecture is necessary for pi-WAM.

If I am not mistaken the evolution
happened around 10 years ago. It was
first announced on a roadmap in March

2013, although the first product was
not announced until May 2017. And its
amazingly what a stack overflow user writes:

"An important purpose of the feature is
to enable reliable use of programming models
such as producer-consumer within a warp"
https://stackoverflow.com/q/70987051

Thats exactly what I will explore,
in the context of pi-WAM. Maybe not
exactly as the stack overflow user

thinks it is done, but in spirit.

Bye

Obelin Baisaroff schrieb:
 > Ross Finlayson wrote:
 >
 >> access to memory, has that these days
 >> with L1/L2/L3 caches and the
 >> proximity and affinity in the topology of the cores and
 >
 > those are embedded cpu registers area,
 > it has nothing to do with the ram.
 > Works by higher clocks compared, but
 > merely useless in AI.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> herpes blister rossy boy is confused.
> One more idiot on the loose that
> cannot do research of AI laptop prices.
> 
> Here you idiots:
> 
> Acer Aspire 14 AI
> https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product/acer-aspire-14-ai-14-1000-gb-32-gb-ch-amd-ryzen-ai-7-350-notebook-65210813 
> 
> 
> Price: 999.–
> Prozessortyp AMD Ryzen AI 7 350
> Grafikkarten Modell Radeon 860M
> Onboard Arbeitsspeicher 32 GB
> Arbeitsspeichertyp LPDDR5X-RAM
> 
> So its even not the case that RAM prices
> have affected AI laptop prices that much.
> 
> Bye
> 
> BTW: The acer company is a taiwan company.
> The above laptop from the aspire series,
> is a little thicker than the one from the
> 
> swift series:
> 
> Acer Aspire One – Acer's mid to high-end personal-use laptop
> Acer Swift – A series of mid to high-end ultra-portable notebooks
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_Inc.
> 
> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>  > On 07/11/2026 05:25 AM, Loman Barabashev wrote:
>  >> Mild Shock wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Hi,
>  >>>
>  >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>  >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>  >>>
>  >>> Budget Laptop means ~1000 USD.
>  >>> Thats not big money. The Mac Neo is even better only ~500 USD.
>  >>
>  >> you stinking sack of rocks, you can't read your own redundant links. 
> Watch
>  >> the prices for the Ryzen AI laptops. Fucking idiot. Not worth the price
>  >> for what they give in AI. Those are embedded cpu/gpu cretin, you don't
>  >> need to read more.
>  >>
>  >
>  > Shut Up, "Burse".
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hey micro penis, your shitting start
>> smelling. Maybe change your pampers?
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
>>> probably only believes the existence of a
>>> hammer, when you hit him on the head with
>>>
>>> a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
>>> there and shitting his pants it seems.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>>  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
>>>  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
>>>  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
>>>  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It seems micro penis has a real existential
>>>> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
>>>> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
>>>>
>>>> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
>>>> heard of the small model revolution that goes
>>>> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
>>>> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
>>>>
>>>> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
>>>>
>>>> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
>>>> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
>>>> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
>>>> landscape is forming.
>>>>
>>>> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
>>>>
>>>> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
>>>> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
>>>> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
>>>> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
>>>> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
>>>> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
>>>> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
>>>>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
>>>>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
>>>>>
>>>>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
>>>>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
>>>>>
>>>>> **Mobile GPU:**
>>>>>
>>>>> Energy Consuption: Low
>>>>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>>>>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
>>>>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
>>>>>
>>>>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
>>>>>
>>>>> Energy Consuption: High
>>>>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
>>>>>     has its own VRAM)
>>>>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: Here are some results for:
>>>>>
>>>>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>>>
>>>>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 Shader
>>>>> 1983 ms
>>>>>
>>>>> 4096 Shaders
>>>>> 16253 ms
>>>>>
>>>>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>>>>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>>>>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shoe String Budget:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>>>>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>>>>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>>>>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>>>>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>>>>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>>>>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>>>>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>>>>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>>>>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>>>>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>>>>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>>>>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>>>>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>>>>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>>>>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>>>>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>>>>>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>>>>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
>>>
>>
>

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