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Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals

From Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups uk.tech.digital-tv
Subject Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals
Date 2026-07-18 14:55 +0100
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On 18/07/2026 13:42, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2026 11:17:16 +0100, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>>>> I've been thinking about restoring TV to the property for some time.
>>>
>>> Is it worth it? Broadcast TV is closing down and being replaced with
>>> streamed TV, you'd be better of with Freely or a decent streaming device,
>>> assuming you have a decent Internet connection.
>>
>> Closing down *when*? Apart from The Guardian article
>> (<https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/jan/29/as-most-tv-viewers-tune-in-via-broadband-will-2034-signal-the-death-of-freeview>),
>> now approaching six months old, there seems to have been nothing
>> official on the subject.
> 
> There doesn't need to be anything 'official' about it for the future
> of conventional broadcasting to be clear. The only thing in doubt is
> the time frame. 

But that's the point. Until a time is announced there is *no* change!

Fibre to the home offers so many potential features
> with which one-way broadcasting by radio transmission cannot compete
> that it can only be a matter of time before it completely replaces all
> other communication and entertainment services in our homes.

No FTTP here, just FTTC. I'm pretty sure that Openreach's December 2026 
date will be passed for me and many others. Not that I need FTTP; FTTC 
is quite enough to stream UHD.

It offers many more potential features to the broadcasters, programme 
makers, advertisers, and data collectors than it does to the viewers. 
Streaming on demand for /all/ programmes is not available present, but 
perhaps will be in the future, and that is the only "advantage" I can 
see. What other features do you see that are not already available on 
the internet to any broadband user?

How will the viewer find out about new programmes other than endless 
adverts/trailers which already seem to fill in-between programme spaces, 
even (or should that be particularly!) on the BBC. Will we be getting a 
"Streaming Now and in Future" guide, with those able to pay more for 
premium spaces getting the best position to push their new programmes? I 
already find iPlayer annoying because it pushes what it thinks I should 
be watching rather than what I want to watch. I pay for the paper Radio 
Times because I find every EPG I find on line far more difficult to scan 
through in the same way that I can do with the RT.

-- 
Jeff

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  Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-07-01 15:54 +0100
    Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-01 17:47 +0100
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-07-15 23:16 +0100
        Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-16 09:53 +0100
          Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-07-16 11:01 +0100
            Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals SH <i.love@spam.com> - 2026-07-16 19:00 +0100
              Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-07-16 22:34 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals SH <i.love@spam.com> - 2026-07-17 08:24 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-07-18 04:29 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-18 07:43 +0000
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 11:17 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-18 10:53 +0000
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 12:48 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-18 13:47 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-07-18 14:25 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 14:37 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 14:42 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-18 16:16 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Laurence Taylor <laurence@nospam.plus.com> - 2026-07-18 17:07 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 18:07 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-18 19:36 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-07-18 18:46 +0000
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-19 09:12 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-19 08:35 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals jon <reading.mostly@crap.org> - 2026-07-19 16:02 +0000
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-18 13:42 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 14:55 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-18 15:17 +0000
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-07-19 00:24 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-19 08:54 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-19 10:22 +0100
  Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-07-01 16:29 +0100
    Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-01 16:21 +0000
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-07-01 17:35 +0100
  Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-01 18:16 +0100
    Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-01 18:42 +0100
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-02 07:55 +0000
  Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-07-02 12:28 +0100
    Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-02 13:46 +0000
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 09:17 +0100
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 18:51 +0100
        Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-03 19:17 +0100
          Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 11:54 +0100
  Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-03 15:31 +0100
    Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-03 15:35 +0100
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-07-03 17:06 +0100
        Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-03 23:17 +0100
  Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-09 18:26 +0100
    Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-07-09 22:34 +0100
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-10 08:43 +0100
        Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-10 09:51 +0100
    Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-10 08:48 +0000
      Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-10 11:20 +0100
        Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-10 11:00 +0000
        Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-07-10 16:52 +0100
          Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-10 18:33 +0100
            Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-15 22:01 +0100
              Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-17 09:01 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-17 12:15 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-18 07:56 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-18 08:34 +0100
                Re: Non Freesat box to Receive Satellite Signals alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-20 07:31 +0100

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