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Not praying to the god of lambda calculus [π beats α] (Was: Introduction to AI Accelerator Prolog [π-WAM of Dogelog])

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups comp.lang.prolog
Subject Not praying to the god of lambda calculus [π beats α] (Was: Introduction to AI Accelerator Prolog [π-WAM of Dogelog])
Date 2026-07-17 11:13 +0200
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Hi,

Somebody tasked the logic programming community
to make an α-Prolog, i.e. have some alpha
conversion whatever builtin, plus maybe nominal
logic fresh variables whatever.

But who reads such nonsense in 2026:

Lifting E-Graphs: A Function Isn't a Constant
https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.22734

So you see where I am aiming with π-WAM, surely
not α-Prolog . I wouldn't care less about  α-Prolog.
π is more fun than α, and working on WAM is more
fun then creating some silly prototype of a

REPL of a homunkulus of a Prolog. π beats α:

- α = abstract, academic, awkward
- π = parallelism, performance, practical

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Maybe I should write a blog post, titled
> Introduction to AI Accelerator Prolog:
> 
> - specialized jobs π-WAM (currently integerish stuff)
> - π-WAM uses no atomics, only comms
> - π-WAM uses warp, 30-40% more speed
> - π-WAM runs on GPU and CPU
> - π-WAM runs from within JavaScript, Python and Java
> 
> Feels like reinventing FGCS concurrent
> logic programming.
> 
> LoL
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> So the idea is to cover backtracking without
>> stack and choice points, only with registers.
>> So at the compute goto will use an instruction
>>
>> that stores the PC target into a register,
>> a new instruction for Hack:
>>
>>     REG = PC + REL
>>
>> And then the jump will be, again a new
>> instruction for Hack:
>>
>>     PC = REG
>>
>> If we squeeze the lemon and compile as much
>> with that, we will only find that it breaks for
>> calling recursive predicates that can use
>>
>> arbitary registers and choice points. But we
>> could maybe add stack and choice point as an
>> after match, instead of the classical WAM design
>>
>> that starts with stack and choice points!
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> pi-WAM is a nice challenge, since its aim is to go
>>> even blow the instruction set of SWI-Prolog,
>>> while only using a Hack variant as instruction
>>>
>>> stream. But what is Hack? Well Hack seems to be
>>> the missing legacy of Niclaus Wirths PL0. The
>>> Hack (machine .asm) and Jack (highlevel compiler
>>>
>>> generating .vm which can be converted to .asm)
>>> combo makes even the famous Crafting Interpreters
>>> /Lox by Bob Nystrom redundant:
>>>
>>> Nand to Tetris courses are taught at 400+
>>> universities, high schools, and bootcamps. The
>>> students who take them range from high
>>> schoolers to Ph.D. students to
>>> https://www.nand2tetris.org/
>>>
>>> But digging deaper in Hack, it has no functions
>>> pointers so objects don't use virtual tables.
>>> But what will pi-WAM need and that is not yet
>>>
>>> in Hack? Given that my pi-WAM doesn't want a stack
>>> nor a choice point lists? Currently there is the
>>> idea to add a computed goto and that it can
>>>
>>> cover a more lightweight C_OR as known from
>>> SWI-Prolog, that would have the C_OR branches
>>> maybe restricted to have no outside
>>>
>>> clause calls? Lets see. Not yet sure.
>>>
>>> Bye
> 

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