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Re: Olcott's system

From André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.logic, sci.math, comp.theory
Subject Re: Olcott's system
Date 2026-07-15 18:10 -0600
Organization Christians and Atheists United Against Creeping Agnosticism
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On 2026-07-15 14:34, olcott wrote:
> On 7/15/2026 2:32 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>> On 2026-07-15 11:24, olcott wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2026 12:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>>> On 2026-07-15 10:25, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 7/15/2026 4:19 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/07/2026 19:28, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/13/2026 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/07/2026 19:56, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/2026 11:48 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/2026 9:30 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/12/2026 3:11 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I am correct Olcott wants to build a system such that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convince everybody of the truth. E.g. he thinks that he 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prove that the 'Trump sentence'" 'Trump lost the elections 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of fraud' is not true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few questions:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) How many petabytes of basic-facts and rules does he 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to construct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his proof?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Given that even after 20 years he did not convince 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctness of one 'basic fact', how many peta-years do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to convince a believer of the Trump sentence that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all his basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts and rules are correct?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) How is Olcott going to prove that his system is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct? His system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not able to prove its own correctness, because of a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self- reference.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This aspect can be implemented manually by carefully
>>>>>>>>>>>>> searching for the answer to this one question:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was there any actual evidence of election fraud
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that could have possibly change the outcome of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2020 presidential election?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you've completely missed the point of Fred's question. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> His question
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't about the 2020 USA election; that was just used as an 
>>>>>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred's question was about how are you going to prove your 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ENTIRE SYSTEM
>>>>>>>>>>>> is correct?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is best understood by how the single example
>>>>>>>>>>> is proved correct.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rubbish!  A single example may be proven correct, but that has 
>>>>>>>>>> no bearing
>>>>>>>>>> on the correctness of the whole system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is a very important example that does determine
>>>>>>>>> the fate of our whole Democracy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is not as important as you seem to think. Democracy has 
>>>>>>>> collapsed
>>>>>>>> may times in many places but has survived elseqhere and has many 
>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>> been restored where it has collapsed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is possible that federal democracy collapses in United 
>>>>>>>> States. At
>>>>>>>> least some states may try to keep their internal democracy or their
>>>>>>>> freedom or both, which may result in disintegration of the union,
>>>>>>>> much like happened in Mexico with the consequence that Texas 
>>>>>>>> switched
>>>>>>>> to another state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But something unrelated could cause the collapse anyway even if 
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> example question could be fullly convincingly answered.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems that most people are too fucking stupid
>>>>>>> to get this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never claimed otherwise, about you or other stupid peaople.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Claims without supporting evidence cannot
>>>>>>> be correctly accepted as true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I havn't seen amy people accepting your claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We ARE having the rise of the fourth Reich because
>>>>> too many fucking morons are so fucking stupid that
>>>>> they accept claims without supporting evidence as
>>>>> verified facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> They do this without having any idea what evidence
>>>>> is and how it works. They are so fucking stupid that
>>>>> they honestly believe that yelling at someone is how
>>>>> you prove your point.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently you're rather irony-impaired.
>>>>
>>>> You're asking people to accept your claims without supporting evidence.
>>>>
>>>> The only one who comes across as yelling at people on this forum is 
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am asking people to accept truisms such as
>>> this one as truisms and quit fucking disagreeing
>>> with every single point:
>>>
>>> Claims without supporting evidence cannot
>>> be correctly accepted as true.
>>
>> I'd agree with that claim, but it's hardly a truism.
>>
> 
> Then you are not bothering to pay 100% perfect
> attention to the exact meaning of every word.

You have a peculiar definition of 'truism', much like you have peculiar 
definitions of most everything.

> That people are not paying attention and totally
> obeying the exact meaning of those words is the
> key error that allows Nazi propaganda to function.
> 
>> And the point is you continuously ask people to accept *your* claims 
>> when you give no supporting evidence.
>>
> 
> My "claims" are proven true by the exact meaning of
> my words. It took fools here a few round and rounds
> before they even understood that facts are true.
> 
>> Instead, you always assert that your claims are 'true on the basis of 
>> the meanings of the words', but that's not how evidence actually works. 
> 
> No that it how 100% perfect proof works.

That's a possible way for proofs to work, but its not how the 
overwhelming majority of them work, and its certainly not how your 
'proofs' work.

>> the only statements that are true based solely on the meanings of 
>> their words are trivially uninteresting claims. 
> 
> There are 200 petabytes of "atomic facts" that disagree.

The 200 petabytes of atomic facts that you keep talking about exists 
only in your imagination.

And this is a perfect example of a claim that you expect people to 
accept without evidence. 200 petabytes is just something you pulled out 
of your ass.

>> Try to find any examples of academic papers where the only supporting 
>> evidence they offer is that their claims are 'true on the basis of the 
>> meanings of the words'. You won't find any because that simply doesn't 
>> cut it.
>>
> 
> Everyone else is doing something entirely different.
> You don't seems to have a clue of the difference
> between analytical truth 5 > 3 and empirical truth
> H2O is water.
> 
>> People reject your claims because (1) your words are too vaguely 
>> defined to be useful, 
> 
> Total bullshit. These words SPECIFY EXACTLY
> WHAT I MEAN:
> 
> semantic (adjective)
> of or relating to meaning in language
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/semantic

That says very little without some discussion of what you mean by 
'meaning' or 'language'. Both have been construed in a wide variety of 
different ways. As I said, too vague to be useful.

> entail (verb)
> to cause or involve by necessity or as a consequence.
> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/entail

'Necessity' and 'cause' are both terms laden with all sorts of 
metaphysical baggage which you do not address. Again, too vague to be 
useful.

> [semantically entail] is the above semantic + entail.
> "meaning in language" that "causes a necessary consequence"

Combining two vague terms gives you an even vaguer term.

André

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  Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-12 14:30 +0000
    Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 11:13 -0500
      Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-12 16:48 +0000
        Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 11:56 -0500
          Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-13 10:38 +0300
            Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 11:28 -0500
              Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 12:19 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 11:25 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-15 11:01 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 12:24 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-15 13:32 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 15:34 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-15 18:10 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-17 12:48 +0100
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                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 10:05 +0300
    Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 10:31 -0500
      Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-13 16:22 +0000
        Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 11:37 -0500
          Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-13 20:17 +0000
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              Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-13 21:09 +0000
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                Re: Olcott's system (not Hobbes) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 13:03 -0700
                Re: Olcott's system (not Hobbes) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 15:56 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system (not Hobbes) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 20:18 -0700
                Re: Olcott's system (not Hobbes) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 10:42 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system (not Hobbes) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-16 08:08 -0700
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                Re: Olcott's system (not Hobbes) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-17 09:20 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system (not Hobbes) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 07:24 -0700
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 23:43 -0500
              Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-13 16:03 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 18:05 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-14 11:51 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:35 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 10:41 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 10:34 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 12:34 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-17 20:10 +0100
          Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-14 12:19 +0300
            Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:45 -0500
              Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 10:43 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 10:35 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 10:45 +0300
      Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 10:30 +0300
    Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:26 -0500
      Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 11:06 +0300
        Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 10:47 -0500
          Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 10:49 +0300
        Re: Olcott's system Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-18 11:59 +0100
          Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-19 11:46 +0300
            Re: Olcott's system Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-20 07:23 +0100
              Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-20 11:02 +0300
  Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 10:38 -0600
    Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 11:51 -0500
      Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 11:29 -0600
        Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 13:00 -0500
          Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 12:49 -0600
            Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 13:57 -0500
              Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:02 -0400
              Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:04 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 14:29 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:31 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 14:46 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:51 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:04 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 16:06 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:34 -0700
                Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 14:15 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-13 11:08 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 11:33 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-13 16:43 +0000
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 11:56 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-13 17:14 +0000
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 12:20 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-13 20:24 +0000
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 17:49 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-14 12:48 +0000
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 12:41 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-14 19:39 +0000
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:59 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-14 20:12 +0000
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 15:33 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-14 20:48 +0000
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 16:04 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:22 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 11:11 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 10:52 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 15:59 -0700
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 11:10 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-14 10:59 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:19 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 11:16 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 10:54 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 11:13 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 15:36 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:45 -0700
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-14 10:57 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:16 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 11:24 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 11:00 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 11:25 +0300
                Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 13:50 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:08 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 11:31 +0300
              Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 13:25 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:02 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 16:04 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:15 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 16:27 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:56 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 17:03 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 16:21 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 17:27 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 16:40 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 17:57 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 17:15 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 18:28 -0400
                Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 15:38 -0600
                Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 16:44 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 15:56 -0600
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 17:10 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 16:31 -0600
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 18:33 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 18:32 -0600
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 19:53 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 21:00 -0400
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 20:18 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 21:19 -0400
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 20:23 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 21:26 -0400
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 20:28 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-13 08:49 -0600
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 10:34 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-13 10:47 -0600
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 12:00 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-13 11:49 -0600
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 12:55 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-14 12:27 +0300
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-14 14:52 -0500
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:56 -0700
                Re: Totally clueless about inductive inference? Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-18 14:52 +0100
                Re: Olcott's system André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2026-07-12 14:34 -0600
                Re: Olcott's system olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 15:49 -0500
                Re: Olcott's system "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-07-13 13:52 -0700
                Re: Olcott's system Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-15 11:30 +0300
                Terribly evil lies that kill all life on Earth olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 11:07 -0500
                Re: Terribly evil lies that kill all life on Earth Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-15 16:50 +0000
                Re: Terribly evil lies that kill all life on Earth olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 12:19 -0500
                Re: Terribly evil lies that kill all life on Earth Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2026-07-15 17:54 +0000
                Re: Terribly evil lies that kill all life on Earth olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2026-07-15 13:05 -0500
                Re: Terribly evil lies that kill all life on Earth Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-07-18 11:32 +0100
                Re: Terribly evil lies that kill all life on Earth Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2026-07-16 11:45 +0300

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