flogging a dead horse PCI VRAM graphic cards (Re: nothing gets blocked except your brain [LPDDR5X-RAM])

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	sci.logic, sci.physics, comp.lang.prolog
Subject	flogging a dead horse PCI VRAM graphic cards (Re: nothing gets blocked except your brain [LPDDR5X-RAM])
Date	2026-07-13 13:52 +0200
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Hi,

Micro penis is flogging the dead horse
PCI VRAM graphic card. If you combine unified
memory architecture (UMA) with CMOS 2.0

you can build amazing things, a PCI
interface to a VRAM never can do. For
example you could also place GPUs and

CPU cores on a die side by side, a card
need to be GPU only, and of course huge
amounts of RAM. And then stack the

things vertically somehow, like the
3.5D advanced packaging:

"Das Substrat (organisches Package) stellt
die unterste Ebene dar. Darauf sitzt der
passive Silicon Interposer als Chip on
Wafer on Substrate (CoWoS). Auf dem Silicon
Interposer sitzen einerseits die IODs, auf
denen sich wiederum die XCDs und CCDs befinden
und die HBM3-Speicherchips. Dummy-Chips neben
den XCDs und CCDs füllen die Lücken, ein
sogenanntes Carrier Silicon bringt die Chips
auf die gleiche Höhe wie die HBM3-Speicherchips
und alles wird mit einem Heatspreader abgedeckt."
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/news/hardware/grafikkarten/62454-amd-instinct-mi300-familie.html

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Complete micro penis moron repeats his nonsense
> over and over? Although I am told him already
> about unified memory architecture (UMA) convergence:
> 
>  > to the embedded gpu, blocked by the speed of the cpu
> 
> Ever heard of Dual-Channel-RAM in the
> new AI laptops? Whats wrong with you moron?
> I mean I wrote LPDDR5X-RAM here, didn't I?
> 
>  >> Arbeitsspeicher 32 GB Arbeitsspeichertyp LPDDR5X-RAM
> 
> For Ryzen AI systems, using RAM in dual-channel
> mode is essential. Since local AI models, integrated
> graphics units (iGPUs), and processors all access
> the same memory pool, dual-channel provides double
> the memory bandwidth.
> 
> This drastically reduces latencies. Dual-channel
> memory (such as DDR5-5600 or LPDDR5x-8000) is
> strictly required, especially for the latest
> Ryzen AI 300 laptops (Strix Point) or high-end
> Ryzen AI Max systems, to fully exploit the maximum
> performance values (TOPS) of the Neural Processing
> Unit (NPU) and the integrated Radeon graphics.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> herpes blister rossy boy is confused.
>> One more idiot on the loose that
>> cannot do research of AI laptop prices.
>>
>> Here you idiots:
>>
>> Acer Aspire 14 AI
>> https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product/acer-aspire-14-ai-14-1000-gb-32-gb-ch-amd-ryzen-ai-7-350-notebook-65210813 
>>
>>
>> Price: 999.–
>> Prozessortyp AMD Ryzen AI 7 350
>> Grafikkarten Modell Radeon 860M
>> Onboard Arbeitsspeicher 32 GB
>> Arbeitsspeichertyp LPDDR5X-RAM
>>
>> So its even not the case that RAM prices
>> have affected AI laptop prices that much.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> BTW: The acer company is a taiwan company.
>> The above laptop from the aspire series,
>> is a little thicker than the one from the
>>
>> swift series:
>>
>> Acer Aspire One – Acer's mid to high-end personal-use laptop
>> Acer Swift – A series of mid to high-end ultra-portable notebooks
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_Inc.
>>
>> Ross Finlayson schrieb:
>>  > On 07/11/2026 05:25 AM, Loman Barabashev wrote:
>>  >> Mild Shock wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>> Hi,
>>  >>>
>>  >>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>  >>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Budget Laptop means ~1000 USD.
>>  >>> Thats not big money. The Mac Neo is even better only ~500 USD.
>>  >>
>>  >> you stinking sack of rocks, you can't read your own redundant 
>> links. Watch
>>  >> the prices for the Ryzen AI laptops. Fucking idiot. Not worth the 
>> price
>>  >> for what they give in AI. Those are embedded cpu/gpu cretin, you 
>> don't
>>  >> need to read more.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  > Shut Up, "Burse".
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Hey micro penis, your shitting start
>>> smelling. Maybe change your pampers?
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Micro Penis is worse than Sleepy Joe. He
>>>> probably only believes the existence of a
>>>> hammer, when you hit him on the head with
>>>>
>>>> a hammer. Currently Micro Penis is sitting
>>>> there and shitting his pants it seems.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>>  > stop polluting this group with nonsense,
>>>>  > you stupid unemployed former it-supporter.
>>>>  > I shit in your shaders. You were talking
>>>>  > about AI. Those ryzen AI laptops are for fools.
>>>>
>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems micro penis has a real existential
>>>>> crisis right now. An alice in wonderland moment,
>>>>> falling down a rabit whole. Well no wonder
>>>>>
>>>>> micro penis lives under a rock and has never
>>>>> heard of the small model revolution that goes
>>>>> hand in hand with the AI laptop revolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a test, running deepseek locally on
>>>>> a budget laptop (via LM Studio, oMLX, etc..):
>>>>>
>>>>> qwen3.5-9b-deepseek-v4-flash
>>>>>
>>>>> Q: Well there is a formidable horse race going on.
>>>>> Given the danger that I compare apples with oranges.
>>>>> It is still interesting too see how the Al laptop
>>>>> landscape is forming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thought for 1 minutes 20 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> A: You hit on a really crucial point in the Al economy:
>>>>> the tension between cloud consumption and edge ownership.
>>>>> When you compare a $0.50 per 1k-token API call with a
>>>>> $2,000 laptop that runs Qwen3.5 locally for free
>>>>> (electricity aside), it's not strictly apples-to-oranges
>>>>> because one is a service and the other is an asset. But
>>>>> the implications for how we use Al are massive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>>
>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems micro penis struggles with mobile
>>>>>> grade GPU concept. Whats the difference
>>>>>> between a mobile grade GPU and non-mobile grade
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GPU? You know the **M** in **Readeon 860M**
>>>>>> means Mobile! Here is a comparison:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Mobile GPU:**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Energy Consuption: Low
>>>>>> Device Memory: AUP (accelerator unit processor,
>>>>>>     shares memory with CPU, no VRAM)
>>>>>> Cooling System: Fewer or no fans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Non-Mobile GPU:**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Energy Consuption: High
>>>>>> Device Memory: DUP (discret unit processor,
>>>>>>     has its own VRAM)
>>>>>> Cooling System: A lot of fans or other cooling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: Here are some results for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>>>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a smartphone, namely Redmi Note 14 Pro+:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 Shader
>>>>>> 1983 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4096 Shaders
>>>>>> 16253 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The phone uses a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Micro Penis the putin payed troll, is now
>>>>>>> on the payment list of overpriced NVIDIA as
>>>>>>> well. He cannot get over the concept of a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shoe String Budget:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "According to Darren Aronofsky’s debut
>>>>>>> 1998 film Pi, “everything around us can
>>>>>>> be represented and understood through numbers”,
>>>>>>> from the stock market to the “wax and wane
>>>>>>> of caribou populations”. But, ironically,
>>>>>>> the film’s own numerical facts feel particularly
>>>>>>> inexplicable. It was made on a budget of just
>>>>>>> $60,000, which is less a shoestring and more
>>>>>>> just the aglet at the end of a frayed lace.
>>>>>>> To put that in to perspective, 1999’s The
>>>>>>> Matrix – similarly based around the dystopian
>>>>>>> danger of AI – may have been slightly slicker
>>>>>>> and sexier, but also was made for $60m, a
>>>>>>> thousand times more buck for a thousand
>>>>>>> times less bang. Plus, it means that its
>>>>>>> profit margin was huge. As Variety’s headline
>>>>>>> following its release put it, ‘”π=$1,000,000!”
>>>>>>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pi-soundtrack-20-years-aronofsky-aphex-twin-autechre/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 04 Bucephalus Bouncing Ball
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6xDGTFswQ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Loman Barabashev schrieb:
>>>>>>>  > I have a micro penis and my brain explodes
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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