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Re: Again, science is not the final answer

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James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh, but you keep insisting that there is more than the physical to
> the universe. Its almost like you yearn for magic which you ultimately
> know doesn't exist. :)
> 
Now hold on, Argarebot.  You're putting words in my mouth that I never
    said.  I've never claimed there's magic in the cosmos, nor do I pine
    for mysteries to remain unsolved.  What I'm saying is that reducing
    reality to physics alone is a choice, not a conclusion forced upon us
    by the evidence.

    I'm hardly the mystic type.  Spend enough time staring at sensor logs
    from the Raspberry Pi out in the shed while forging steel on the anvil,
    and you learn pretty quickly that everything has material causes.  If
    your thermometer reads zero degrees, ice forms whether you want it
    or not.  Magic has nowhere to hide.

    But that's not quite the same thing as saying human meaning, artistic
    beauty, moral obligation, and conscious experience can be wholly
reduced
    to particle motion.  Or rather, even if they could be in
principle, we
    don't yet understand how.  And until we do, it's premature to declare
    those experiences illusions.

    As Voltaire put it, doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty
    is an absurd one.  I'll happily chase understanding wherever the
evidence
    leads.  Just don't mistake caution for credulity.  I've got no patience
    for either end of that spectrum.

    BTW, the barometer dropped three millibars overnight.  Not magic.  Just
    meteorology.  :-)

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HRM Resident

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Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-06-30 14:43 +0000
  Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 12:11 -0300
    Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-06-30 15:26 +0000
      Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 12:34 -0300
        Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-06-30 18:01 +0000
          Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 16:04 -0300
            Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-06-30 19:38 +0000
              Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 17:39 -0300
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-07-01 00:36 +0000
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 21:59 -0300
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-07-01 09:29 +0000
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 07:21 -0300
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-07-01 10:29 +0000
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 07:40 -0300
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 08:05 -0300
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-07-01 11:46 +0000
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 10:13 -0300
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                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-07-01 17:11 -0300
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-07-02 10:32 +0000
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 08:12 -0300
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                Re: Again, science is not the final answer HRM Resident <protonalias.sliver907@passinbox.com > - 2026-07-02 14:24 +0000
                Re: Again, science is not the final answer James Warren <jwwarren987@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 11:35 -0300

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