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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield”

From Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield”
Date 2026-06-29 23:50 -0400
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Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 6/28/2026 12:10 AM, Chris Thompson wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 6/26/2026 9:39 PM, Chris Thompson wrote:
>>>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:51:30 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that Israel will end up saying screw it and nuking Iran.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would make them even less popular than they are already. JD Vance
>>>>> already said the quiet part out loud:
>>>>>
>>>>>      “Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world 
>>>>> who
>>>>>      is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time. 
>>>>> And
>>>>>      he happens to be the head of state of the world's superpower. 
>>>>> If I
>>>>>      was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be
>>>>>      attacking the only powerful ally I have left.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Any use of nukes would bring the Security Council down hard. The US
>>>>> would find it very hard to resist the pressure not to veto any
>>>>> resolution on action against Israel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Particularly since the whole Iran affair is already reaching the
>>>>> limits of the 🇺🇸President’s somewhat short attention span ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forget the security council. If Israel nukes Iran- and especially if 
>>>> they target any of the holy cities- I am betting there would be a 
>>>> response in kind from Pakistan- who has a lot more nukes than Israel.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> How do you know this?
>>>
>>> And does Pakistan have delivery systems for their antiquated ultra 
>>> heavy nuclear weapons that weigh around ten tons each?
>>>
>>> The Israelis have several cruise missile 200 kt nuclear weapons on 
>>> each of their submarines.
>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin-class_submarine
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>
>> Ten tons.
>>
>> You've been sucking petro fumes too long.
>>
>> Chris
> 
> Do you have better information?  If so, please enlighten me.
> 
> Lynn
> 

Google "Pakistan nuclear weapons"
You'll see that their warheads are mounted on short, medium and 
intermediate range ballistic missiles.

A typical missile is the Ababeel which carries 3 MIRVs of 500kg each.

Other warheads are mounted on cruise missiles launched from Mirage 
fighters- which absolutely do not have a payload of 10 tons.

Now, why don't you tell us where you got such a preposterous number of 
10 tons?

CT

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“Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 17:54 -0500
  Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-06-25 08:22 -0700
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      Re_ Hegseth Hails First Test of America_s Golden Dome Missile Defense Shield quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard) - 2026-06-28 08:54 +0000
        Re: Re_ Hegseth Hails First Test of America_s Golden Dome Missile Defense Shield kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-06-28 08:37 -0400
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        Re: Re_ Hegseth Hails First Test of America_s Golden Dome Missile Defense Shield Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 13:27 -0400
        Re: Re_ Hegseth Hails First Test of America_s Golden Dome Missile Defense Shield Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:46 +0000
        Re: Re_ Hegseth Hails First Test of America_s Golden Dome Missile Defense Shield Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:51 +0000
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  Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-25 23:35 +0000
    Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 18:45 -0500
      Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-26 02:07 +0000
        Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 21:51 -0500
          Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-26 03:57 +0000
            Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-06-26 09:29 -0400
              Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 15:11 -0500
            Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 15:08 -0500
              Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:23 -0400
              Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-27 07:23 +0000
            Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net> - 2026-06-26 22:39 -0400
              Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 15:17 -0500
                Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net> - 2026-06-28 01:10 -0400
                Re: "Hegseth Hails First Test of America's "Golden Dome" Missile Defense Shield" Don <g@crcomp.net> - 2026-06-28 18:59 +0000
                Re: "Hegseth Hails First Test of America's "Golden Dome" Missile Defense Shield" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-28 23:29 +0000
                Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 02:05 -0500
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                Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 15:17 -0500
                Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-30 01:20 +0000
                Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-06-30 11:28 +0000
                Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-06-30 15:01 -0400
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                Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-30 20:51 +0000
                Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 02:51 +0000
                Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Chris Thompson <the_thompsons@earthlink.net> - 2026-06-29 23:50 -0400
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                Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 15:31 -0500
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                Re: Hails First Test of Missile Defense oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2026-07-03 15:53 +0000
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