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| From | danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | the Cold War, was Missile Defense |
| Date | 2026-06-29 22:43 +0000 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <111usev$8rt$1@reader1.panix.com> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <111p557$34u7o$1@dont-email.me> <111plcu$38udv$2@dont-email.me> <euh24ltsc0hr5sodr8q4i9eg6bn7b0ek6v@4ax.com> <111ti2c$222$1@panix2.panix.com> <111urr7$ltvk$5@dont-email.me> |
In <111urr7$ltvk$5@dont-email.me> Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 06:40:12 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote: >> It worked in the eighties. We outspent the Soviets on the cold war >> until they couldn't make their economy function. Few shots were >> fired. >It worked because both sides were thinking along the same lines in >terms of weapons doctrine: ICBMs, jet fighters, jet bombers, tanks, >aircraft carriers, submarines, all that kind of thing. ob RASF: The late Isaac Asimov wrote about one key program the West used which I pretty much agree with. One of the smartest and most cost effective (financially and politically) actions was the IMMENSE amount of money and resources pumped into West Berlin. The East Germans were (aside from the privileged few) living in pisspoor conditions, cold, little to eat, broken down buildings, etc. They'd look across the Wall to West Berlin and see working streetlights, private cars, people walking around at all hours, restuarants open overnight, and even people dropping spare food on the sidewalks. -- _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
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Re: the Cold War, was Missile Defense Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-30 02:55 +0000
Re: the Cold War, was Missile Defense danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2026-06-30 03:09 +0000
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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-06-30 12:13 -0400
Re: Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-29 17:01 +0000
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Re: “Hegseth Hails First Test of America’s “Golden Dome” Missile Defense Shield” scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-27 18:39 +0000
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